Call this river? fold the turn?

Alobar · #1 12-02-2004, 07:00 PM

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (5.20 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.20 BB
Main Pot: 5.20 BB, won by BB.
Pot 2: 1 BB, returned to BB.

The title pretty much sums up my questions. Do I call the turn, hoping either my flush outs are good or that he's semi bluffing the flush and my sevens are good. Would a raise be better? or is the pot to small for such a move? should I have called the river?

JimmyJazz1 · #2 12-02-2004, 11:39 PM

I'd fold to the bet on the turn. I don't see how your hand is good even if you do make the flush. If the 4th club comes, you just have 7 high and if it doesnt, you have mid pair.

joker122 · #3 12-02-2004, 11:57 PM

getting 4.2:1 you're barely getting odds to draw to your flush+set outs which is a 4.1:1 shot. consider the fact that even if you hit you're hand may not be good. any implied odds from a 7 are washed by the reverse implied odds when you are drawing dead.

fearme · #4 12-03-2004, 01:31 AM

and if u do call the turn why not call the river

fearme · #5 12-03-2004, 01:33 AM

this is shorthanded, you dont need to chase nutflushes, plus his turn reverse is suspicious, depending on player this can often mean a bluff, i do it occasionally

Alobar · #6 12-03-2004, 03:25 AM

what about the times my hand is still good?

tylerg · #7 12-03-2004, 05:08 AM

the bet on the flop is an semi aggresive semi bluff...once u get called there YOU HAVE TO SHUT DOWN IN MY OPINON....WHEN the BB took the lead from you a call is rediculus and i think way out of line...Id like to hear a response about this post

chezlaw · #8 12-03-2004, 05:32 AM

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Calling the turn looks -ev to me unless you think there is a good chance you are ahead in which case you must call the river as well.

Without a read, I think folding the turn is best.

chez

Schneids · #9 12-03-2004, 08:16 AM

I think if you're going to continue past the turn raising is your best play, with the intent that that's the last BB of yours that goes into the pot.

rtucker5 · #10 12-03-2004, 10:37 AM

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I like this play if the opponent will not play back at you without the nuts. If he is a crazy like the 6 max games tends to draw, I hate this play. He might make you fold the best hand and get the 2 bets it would have cost you to see his hand.