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Old 11-27-2004, 10:54 PM
krille krille is offline
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Default card-player article... a complete joke

The Hand:

Fixed Limit Hold'em, you are on the button with Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

MP Raises
Hero 3-bets
SB Calls
MP Calls

Pot: 10 Small Bets (The author didn't even get this right)

FLOP:
J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

SB Checks
MP Checks
Hero Bets
SB Calls
MP Raises
Hero Calls
SB Calls

Pot: 11 Big Bets

TURN:

J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB Bets
MP Raises
Hero Calls
SB 3-Bets
MP Calls
Hero Calls


Pot: 20 Big Bets

RIVER:

J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB Bets
MP Calls
Hero Folds

He got is right preflop, he got it right on the flop, he even got it right on the turn... but folding in the river... this guy must be on drugs.

Quote from article "My queens are garbage. It’s less than a 1 percent chance they’re good".

Is that so? Well you must know since you are a "professional".

Read it yourself:
Article

This would, seriously, be an idiotic fold at ANY level. If he makes this kind of folds all the time he can't honestly be a winning player.

and also... how the hell does an article like this get published in CardPlayer? Are they trying to make players worse or something?? Don't they have anyone read through what they publish? Yikes. Maybe soon they will hire "jack high" aswell... wouldn't that be a party.
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Old 11-27-2004, 11:23 PM
Equal Equal is offline
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Default Re: card-player article... a complete joke

I thought it was common knowledge that about 2/3's of Card Player's articles are complete fluff?

There was a quote from an article last month that read something like, "it is correct to fold here. Unless you are playing your rush, then you could call this."
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Old 11-27-2004, 11:25 PM
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Default Re: card-player article... a complete joke

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There was a quote from an article last month that read something like, "it is correct to fold here. Unless you are playing your rush, then you could call this."

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OMFG.... now I am DAMN glad I was never able to find any of their mags at the local bookstores.....

Freakin
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Old 11-27-2004, 11:36 PM
Harv72b Harv72b is offline
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Default Re: card-player article... a complete joke

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Pot: 10 Small Bets (The author didn't even get this right)


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1 SB from the big blind. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Still doesn't change the fact that you can't fold top set for 1 river bet.
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Old 11-27-2004, 11:49 PM
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Default Re: card-player article... a complete joke

The guy is on crack.

Most of the stuff written on cardplayer is of similar quality.
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Old 11-27-2004, 11:57 PM
Bob T. Bob T. is offline
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Default Re: card-player article... a complete joke

I guess I'm an aspiring player, but not aspiring to get to the next level in his article.
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:13 AM
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Default The turn

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even got it right on the turn

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I don't see why this isn't a turn 3-bet. Who are you putting on AK? It doesn't seem likely to me that anyone has it, unless MP has A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] specifically and players will often cap pre-flop with AKs. The board is draw heavy and the pot is big, I'm not interested in hoping for the overcall from the SB when he is fairly likely to call 2 cold anyway and I don't mind it getting capped here at all HU or 3way at all because JJ/TT from MP and QJ/QT/pair which has just picked up straight draw or flush draw from the SB seem more likely than AK from either player.
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: card-player article... a complete joke

What an absurd fold.
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Old 11-28-2004, 01:29 AM
Russ McGinley Russ McGinley is offline
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Default Re: card-player article... a complete joke

Yeah this is a pretty bad fold. The only way you fold here is if both of the other players show you their hands and one of them has AK.
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Old 11-28-2004, 01:53 AM
TheHip41 TheHip41 is offline
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Default Re: card-player article... a complete joke

Anyone else not like the turn call? Come on, all you are losing to is a flopped straight. Talk about not fearing monsters. I'd raise this turn, and if a blank falls on the river, like it did, and the action was bet, call, I'd raise again. Who would ever fold here?
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