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Good all in, or wait?
At the final table in casino; 10 players, 10 payouts. I'm UTG with $6,000. Blinds are 4,000 and 2,000. I'm going to be blinded out.
I get 9T diamonds. I go all in, not to steal (bad position, BB has big stack and sure to call). Lose to KK in mid position. With the blinds coming, this seemed like a decent hand. Or should I have waited for something better, at least a face or ace, and take my chances? There were two smaller stacks than mine at the other end of the table. If I were to survive the blinds, they might have busted out. Does this make a difference? |
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Re: Good all in, or wait?
i think youre better off just limping in here rather than pushing because if your hand has any chance of holding up you might as well get multiway action. this is certainly the hand that youre getting the money in with because while it may not be as strong statistically in a heads up situation as the next hand you pick up, this hand gives you a good chance to quintuplet up.
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Re: Good all in, or wait?
huh?
you have three hands MAX left. Your choices are to push here, add 2K to your BB the next hand, or lose that 2K in your SB.... unless I'm an idiot and I'm reading this wrong. Push every time. Folding means you put your tournament life on the line with two random cards -- likely to be wore than 9Ts. Limping is useless here... |
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Re: Good all in, or wait?
Thanks for the post. I hadn't considered limping. It might have given me more action, although the table had some good players and decent stacks. If someone was going to call, they more than likely would come in for another half bet.
I suppose limping does give me the option of folding if the flop completely misses me (which it didn't, I caught a T), and putting the last $2,000 in the BB. Would this have been a good option too? By the way, this was limit poker. |
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Re: Good all in, or wait?
I would wait the one hand and play my blind for everything. I would play an Ace or King here, but not Ten high.
THe real trick is not to let yourself get so short stacked. before making a stand. If you ended up there because you lost a pot, then it can't be avoided, but if you were blinded down to there, then you waited too long. |
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Re: Good all in, or wait?
Limping is just foolish here so forget it...
There's some missing info here - what position were you? I'm assuming UTG or UTG+1. If that's the case, you have 8-10 more hands to "make your stand with" and, in the meantime, those smaller stacks could've busted out and you get more $$$. Also, what's the difference in payouts between 10th and 7th? If 10th pays $200 and 7th pays $250, who the *&^% cares whether you get 10th or 7th - go all-in with 9Ts. If 7th pays $400+ though, now you might sit on your hands until you either get an A or K or better or are blinded off. I don't know - tough call... If you were in early position though with a 9Ts and had at least 6 more hands to go (til you die from blinds), I'm probably laying it down and waiting for two random cards that have a K or A or better. |
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Re: Good all in, or wait?
I wouldn't even bother looking at what cards I was dealt before pushing in this position.
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Re: Good all in, or wait?
With the blinds coming up next (at least that's what I assume from the post) then you're just counting on getting a K or A the next 2 hands. When you get K2 or A5 a lot of times you're going to get called by better kings or aces, leaving you with 3 outs. At least by pushing with 9Ts both your cards have a chance to be live. And, hot and cold, 9Ts is a decent hand.
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Re: Good all in, or wait?
[ QUOTE ]
I wouldn't even bother looking at what cards I was dealt before pushing in this position. [/ QUOTE ]UTG w/ another 8 hands before the blinds come around???? Wow - come play in my tournaments [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [ QUOTE ] With the blinds coming up next (at least that's what I assume from the post) then you're just counting on getting a K or A the next 2 hands. [/ QUOTE ]He's UTG in a ring game, not MP+2... |
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Re: Good all in, or wait?
I wouldn't push with mediocre hands with less than 2bb. But this is not one. Have to put your chips in the middle here.
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