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Old 11-22-2004, 12:01 PM
chson chson is offline
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Default J5s folds to 1 bet on river..

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP1 posts a blind of $2.00.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 (poster) checks, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

<font color="purple"> They're suited! </font>

Flop: (4 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP3 calls.

<font color="purple"> I figured waiting for a safe card to fall on the turn before betting/raising would be incorrect since the pot was relatively small.</font>

Turn: (4.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls.

<font color="purple"> Good chance I'm still in the lead. </font>

River: (6.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero folds.

<font color="purple"> Although the pot has become quite large, the board's too coordinated to call a raise. Right?</font>

Final Pot: 9.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 8.50 BB, won by MP3.</font>
<font color="green">Pot 2: 1 BB, returned to MP3.</font>
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Old 11-22-2004, 12:07 PM
butters butters is offline
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Default Re: J5s folds to 1 bet on river..

MP3 might call your river bet with a worse hand, but I think checking and hoping to induce a bluff might be the way to go here.
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Old 11-22-2004, 12:15 PM
slogger slogger is offline
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Default Re: J5s folds to 1 bet on river..

If you were going to fold to a raise, you should have checked and shown down your hand for one bet.
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Old 11-22-2004, 01:26 PM
chson chson is offline
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Default Re: J5s folds to 1 bet on river..

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If you were going to fold to a raise, you should have checked and shown down your hand for one bet.

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Interesting. I need to work on these kind of plays since I'm always in the AGGRO mindset.
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Old 11-22-2004, 01:52 PM
spamuell spamuell is offline
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Default Re: J5s folds to 1 bet on river..

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If you were going to fold to a raise, you should have checked and shown down your hand for one bet.

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This is absolute rubbish. There are lots of examples where value betting is clearly correct and folding to a raise is also clearly correct.
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