How do guys like this even get this far?

[Zinzan]

Playing in a $20 NL Multitable. 1380 entrants. In the money (about 90 left), but nothing pays significantly until you get to the top 6.

***** Hand History for Game 1179438348 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:7190104 Level:13 Blinds (750/1500) - Sunday, November 14, 21:19:35 EDT 2004
Table Multi-Table(131029) Table #7 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: k_w_n ( $20658 )
Seat 2: W0LVERINES ( $35565 )
Seat 3: zinzan ( $29699 )
Seat 4: mauidiver ( $15772 )
Seat 7: motown_16 ( $18000 )
Seat 8: LordofSharks ( $4049 )
Seat 9: pedophile666 ( $21862 )
Seat 10: Beast17 ( $39447 )
Seat 5: srocs ( $30117 )
Trny:7190104 Level:13
Blinds (750/1500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to zinzan [ 7h 7c ]
mauidiver calls [1500].
srocs folds.
motown_16 folds.
srocs: ty
LordofSharks folds.
pedophile666 folds.
Beast17 folds.
k_w_n folds.
W0LVERINES folds.
zinzan raises [3500].
mauidiver calls [3500].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4h, Qh, 9h ]
zinzan bets [10000].
mauidiver is all-In.
zinzan calls [772].
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
zinzan shows [ 7h, 7c ] a pair of sevens.
mauidiver shows [ Ah, 5d ] two pairs, aces and fives.

*sigh*

-Z

[Zinzan]

***** Hand History for Game 1179471264 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:7190104 Level:13 Blinds (750/1500) - Sunday, November 14, 21:27:03 EDT 2004
Table Multi-Table(131029) Table #7 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: k_w_n ( $10408 )
Seat 2: W0LVERINES ( $22015 )
Seat 3: zinzan ( $13177 )
Seat 4: mauidiver ( $47044 )
Seat 7: motown_16 ( $18000 )
Seat 8: LordofSharks ( $1799 )
Seat 9: pedophile666 ( $17362 )
Seat 10: Beast17 ( $55247 )
Seat 5: srocs ( $30117 )
Seat 6: habibi247 ( $10670 )
Trny:7190104 Level:13
Blinds (750/1500)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to zinzan [ Kd Ac ]
W0LVERINES folds.
zinzan raises [4000].
mauidiver folds.
srocs raises [17400].
habibi247 folds.
motown_16 folds.
LordofSharks folds.
pedophile666 is all-In.
Beast17 folds.
k_w_n folds.
zinzan is all-In.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, As, 2h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ad ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]
srocs shows [ Ts, Th ] a full house, Aces full of tens.
pedophile666 shows [ Kc, Kh ] a full house, Aces full of kings.
zinzan shows [ Kd, Ac ] four of a kind, aces.
srocs wins 38 chips from side pot #2 with a full house, Aces full of tens.
pedophile666 wins 8370 chips from side pot #1 with a full house, Aces full of kings.

I am capable of folding Big Slick, but I had a below average stack, and the pot odds were nice.

Nice!

-Z

[Zinzan]

Well, I got knocked out of this one at 17. Had an average stack of about t68,000, when I look down in CO-1 to find AA. Blinds are 4000/8000, and MP raises t18000 of his t58,000. Big stack is in the BB w/ t108,000.

I decide to semi-slowplay and flat-call, thinking there's a chance the BB will call, and maybe even reraise, where I can then push PF. He folds.

Flop comes JJx, and MP checks. I figure the pots big enough, so I push. He turns over KJ. Damn. I go out a few hands later.

I had a good run in this tournament, though, and quite a few nice starting hands--Aces a couple times, Queens about five times, AK several times. Kinda sucks that I *never* get these starting hands in the big guaranteed tournaments!

-Z

[Spladle Master]

They get this far because of hands like the one you posted here.

[Spladle Master]

Don't know why you'd raise 1/3 of your stack here, I'd just go all-in when the action got around to me. Picking up the blinds at this point is fine with me.

[Toro]

On that first hand, I call it the Ace syndrom. Some clueless players think if they have an ace in their hand regardless of kicker, it's gold. I was watching my son-in-law play a $50 sng(you would think the players would be better) yesterday and this occurred on the 2nd hand.

Son-in-Law(SIL) had QQ in early position and raised to 80, mp re-raises to 380 and LP re-raises all-in. I tell SIL that one must have AA or KK and the other AK. He's ready to fold and tells me he's seen some idiotic plays a lot early in these sng's and he calls.

MP had 99 and LP had A3o and immediately hits an Ace on the flop. Fortunately, a Q came on the River and SIL triples on 2nd hand. But if he doesn't hit the 2 outer on the River, the idiot playing A3o would have tripled. So that's how on occasion they get that far.

[willie]

who knows how they get that far, i look at some people with bigstacks and i know i have a lot to learn in order to have real multitable success.......they just seem sooo loose and so lucky at times that it's rediculous---suckouts when dominated, winning coinflips repeatedly....just basically reckless and i don't see them switch gears at all- it's just 90 miles an hour all the time.

i have a lot to learn, specifically how to play small pairs aggressively- i play for set value waaaay too often and i see bigstacks raisin big with low pairs- i just find myself lost after i raise big with 77 and the flop comes queen ten 5.

tis a learning game.

[Zinzan]

Not sure which hand you're talking about--on the first hand mentioned, I raised to t3500 from a stack of t29000 or so.

Second hand, I called all-in.

Third hand, I called t18000 preflop from a stack of t68000 with AA, hoping to trap. If I had to do it over again, I'd have gone all-in, happy to win t30000 in blinds, but the raiser may have called anyway with KJ, as he had voluntarily put 1/3 of his stack in the pot.

-Z

[Zinzan]

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They get this far because of hands like the one you posted here.

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I see guys get away with this once or twice, but how did he survive 1300 players to get this far?! You'd think he'd have busted himself out by then...

-Z

[zaxx19]

WILLIE (wink wink) with postion raise the pot....you will take it down like 70% of the time believe me..OUT of postion yu dont wanna be all that aggressive with 77 in the first place early in a tourney but yu still gotta bet out.