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Old 11-09-2004, 05:04 PM
LobstaJohnson LobstaJohnson is offline
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Default Online Poker Selection Rules of Thumb?

I would be interested in the views of the experts out there on finding the online tables with the highest level of bad play...

My theory (culled from Phil Gordon's book) was to find a table that was loose but passive, so you could get big pots and chase people off their hands. I went about this by looking for the highest percentage seeing the flop, but with the smallest number of big bets/person per pot. I created an excel spreadsheet for this (which I would be happy to share).

However, this hasn't netted me the results I intended. I seem to get plopped into tougher games that don't seem to yield the results (me winning lots of big pots) I intended.

I'm sure someone has done a more cogent analysis on this; I'd be very interested in your thoughts!

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Old 11-09-2004, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: Online Poker Selection Rules of Thumb?

loose but passive, so you could get big pots and chase people off their hands.

One of these things does not fit.
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Old 11-09-2004, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: Online Poker Selection Rules of Thumb?

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loose but passive, so you could get big pots and chase people off their hands.

One of these things does not fit.

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They're not exclusive. Games range from tight to loose, from passive to aggressive. Given the extremes, you can have:

Loose/passive
Loose/aggressive
Tight/passive
Tight/aggressive

What I was looking for was a loose/passive game (people call with all kinds of crap but don't raise much and fold their hands easily). Or so I thought. The main question still stands, thanks.


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Old 11-09-2004, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: Online Poker Selection Rules of Thumb?

Could you be having trouble chasing your loose opponents off their hands?
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Old 11-09-2004, 05:44 PM
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let me make this easier for you:

"people call with all kinds of crap but don't raise much and fold their hands easily"

Do you see the conflict here?
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Old 11-09-2004, 05:51 PM
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Default Re: Online Poker Selection Rules of Thumb?

Mason Malmuth has argued that loose/passive/predictable opponents are the most profitable. They play too many hands, they go too far with their hands and you know where you stand against them. You have the best of both worlds, they pay you off when you have the best hand and it's easy to tell when you don't have the best hand so you get out.

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Old 11-09-2004, 06:04 PM
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bro, perhaps this will make it clearer:

from LostWages in another section of this forum:

Mason Malmuth has argued that loose/passive/predictable opponents are the most profitable. They play too many hands, they go too far with their hands and you know where you stand against them. You have the best of both worlds, they pay you off when you have the best hand and it's easy to tell when you don't have the best hand so you get out.


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Old 11-09-2004, 06:06 PM
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I agree.

Now, the question is, what's the best way to determine a loose/passive game simply by looking at the table stats online? My theory was, as I stated previously, to find a table with a high flop-seeing percentage, but a low dollar-per-person pot. I'm not sure that's the best use of the statistics to find a profitable table.

thanks!


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Old 11-09-2004, 06:08 PM
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lol
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Old 11-09-2004, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: Online Poker Selection Rules of Thumb?

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Could you be having trouble chasing your loose opponents off their hands?

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yes, that's part of it...so what I'm concerned is that my use of the table statistics may not in fact be leading me into a loose/passive game. The main question is, what statistical parameters would one look for to find a loose/passive game?

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