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Old 11-03-2004, 01:06 PM
PITTM PITTM is offline
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Default The Dark Ages of America...

It really didnt matter to me that Bush was reelected, as i had said, i was 90% sure it would happen and Kerry probably would have been just as bad. However, the way states voted on gay marriage amendments is absouletely sickening.

The way this board talks about moral issues astounds me, the liberals "dont understand moral(e!) issues" and we need to make concessions to conservatives who blindly follow what the bible says, as if 2 men who love each other is really any different than a man and a woman loving each other. These elections have shown the south to be horrifically uncompassionate and shows how well they can disenfranchise a group of people. Maybe the bible really does say that it is a sin for 2 men or 2 women to be married, but even so, if the bible is going to dictate what is added to the constitution of certain states then we are in very big trouble.

These states are encouraging an atmosphere of hatred and misunderstanding towards gay and lesbian people and it is absouletely sickening. This election was all about "freedom from terrorists" and while we were at it we decided to take away the freedom of thousands and thousands of Americans. In the end, we will look back on this issue as we did on the way blacks were treated in the pre-civil rights world.

How about we make our country better by doing what we know is right instead of what the bible says/what southerners who obviously seem to have no understanding of homosexuality think? What a dark time in America this is.

rj
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:09 PM
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while we were at it we decided to take away the freedom of thousands and thousands of Americans. In the end, we will look back on this issue as we did on the way blacks were treated in the pre-civil rights world.

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What happens if the Defense of Marriage Act (DOM) is ruled unconstitutional as some point in the future?
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:15 PM
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What "right" do gays have to become married? Where is this "right" granted? Why should they be allowed to marry in the first place? Why is the official title of "marriage" so important to gays? Why do you object to marriage being between a man and a woman? Whay can't gays just get gayrried instead of married and be happy?
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: The Dark Ages of America...

Pittm you are really baffling me, what makes your views any more important than the views of the majority of Americans?
Just because their views are based on the bible and tradition that makes them fraudulent and void, I think this is flawed logic in itself. There is nothing wrong with CU's, and this country has been lead by the so-called "bible followers" for the last 200 years. Lincoln was a "bible follower" and he was one of the greatest Presidents...
Give it up, and quit insulting everybody that doesn't agree with you.
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:20 PM
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Default The MAIN reason for the ban of gay marriages.

If gays are allowed to get married we will have to allow bigotry and all the other abominations of marriage, which cannot happen. It's not so much we don't want gays to get married-- It's like giving candy to a kid whos with his friend, you then have to give candy to all of the kids to be fair (what if one of them is a diabetic).
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Old 11-03-2004, 03:22 PM
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im pretty sure its the fact that their moral beliefs are based completely upon a fictional book...not actual logic as to what is fair and what isnt fair. the same people who are arguing against me now are the people who probably would have argued against civil rights in the 60's. They might say something like, what "right" do blacks have to vote? its just nonsensical. are homosexuals not legitimate human beings in peoples eyes? Thats the question that baffles me.

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Old 11-03-2004, 03:26 PM
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because gays are just as much human beings as non gays. as for the question of why would they want to marry heres a few reasons...convienance, they can have joing bank accounts, own a home jointly, adopt children, etc. If the word "marriage" is the problem, then why not make it legal for homosexual "civil unions" or something. Why do heterosexuals deserve to have their love recognized by law while homosexuals do not? it just defies all logic, unless of course your logic is driven by a book written thousands of years ago.

The people who are saying "whats the big deal" need to realize that 10+ states AMENDED THEIR CONSTITUTION to include this yesterday, i would say that it is a pretty big issue for both sides...

rj
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Old 11-03-2004, 03:29 PM
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Why doesn't the government get out of the marrying business?

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Old 11-03-2004, 03:32 PM
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fine by me, better to not regulate than to encourage discrimination.

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Old 11-03-2004, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: The MAIN reason for the ban of gay marriages.

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If gays are allowed to get married we will have to allow bigotry and all the other abominations of marriage, which cannot happen. It's not so much we don't want gays to get married-- It's like giving candy to a kid whos with his friend, you then have to give candy to all of the kids to be fair (what if one of them is a diabetic).

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I'm assuming you mean bigomy and not bigotry...........?
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