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Old 10-29-2004, 12:59 PM
MrCaddu MrCaddu is offline
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Default Question about MP on a 15/30

Hi, I have recently changed my play to be more tight/agressive. I now take the stance that any cards worth playing from UTG to MP are mostly playable only if you are going to raise.

Would you agree with this?

Also I had some confusing decisions last night and was curious for some insight.

1) I am in MP with A5s. UTG raises to $30 it gets folded to me in MP. At this time there are only 3.5 SB as I have no clue what the others after me will do. I subsequesntly fold only to see three other caller. Well flop come 2 3 4 rainbow. UTG wins a nice size pot with pocket Queens. Was this a good fold at the time?

2) I am on the button and am delt pocket 2's. I was just beat from a CO raise with AK the hand before. Bet comes to me with UTG call one MP call CO raise. I fold them as my thinking is I am not going to be able to control the flow after the flop with the CO raise so my only saving grace will be to make my set. Well sure enough a 2 comes out on the flop and I give up another nice pot.

3) Pocket 8's in UTG position and I fold. All cards came out garbage with a 9 high. Pair of 4's takes down the pot.


Any comments on the above will be much appreciated.
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:11 PM
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Default Re: Question about MP on a 15/30

I'm really torn between recommending you stay at 15/30 so I can take your money and recommending dropping down so you don't go broke.

You've got some fundimentals to work on before you should be playing this game.
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: Question about MP on a 15/30

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Hi, I have recently changed my play to be more tight/agressive. I now take the stance that any cards worth playing from UTG to MP are mostly playable only if you are going to raise.

Would you agree with this?

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nope. I'd limp utg KTs QJs JTs 88 77 sometimes AJo sometimes KQo.

mp depends on the limpers. If it's folded to me i'll raise or fold, though.
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:15 PM
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1) I am in MP with A5s. UTG raises to $30 it gets folded to me in MP. At this time there are only 3.5 SB as I have no clue what the others after me will do. I subsequesntly fold only to see three other caller. Well flop come 2 3 4 rainbow. UTG wins a nice size pot with pocket Queens. Was this a good fold at the time?


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not folding would be a pretty substantial error.

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2) I am on the button and am delt pocket 2's. I was just beat from a CO raise with AK the hand before. Bet comes to me with UTG call one MP call CO raise. I fold them as my thinking is I am not going to be able to control the flow after the flop with the CO raise so my only saving grace will be to make my set. Well sure enough a 2 comes out on the flop and I give up another nice pot.


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If you know the blinds are going to come along (because they are really loose or something, I'd call, otherwise I'd fold unless the CO way overplays his hands and I can make a ton when i flop a set.
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3) Pocket 8's in UTG position and I fold. All cards came out garbage with a 9 high. Pair of 4's takes down the pot.


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I wouldnl't be folding 8's utg as stated above. fold < 77

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Any comments on the above will be much appreciated.

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Drop the results oriented bullshit.
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: Question about MP on a 15/30

Thanks for the tough love... Much appreciated
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: Question about MP on a 15/30

Hi, I have recently changed my play to be more tight/agressive. I now take the stance that any cards worth playing from UTG to MP are mostly playable only if you are going to raise.

Would you agree with this?


The game conditions determine this: if it's a nice soft game with lots of limping you can limp in EP with small pairs, hands like KJs, QJs, etc. Is this 15/30 online? If so it's probably far too aggressive to limp with most of these hands in EP.

1) I am in MP with A5s. UTG raises to $30 it gets folded to me in MP. At this time there are only 3.5 SB as I have no clue what the others after me will do. I subsequesntly fold only to see three other caller. Well flop come 2 3 4 rainbow. UTG wins a nice size pot with pocket Queens. Was this a good fold at the time?

Yes of course it was - don't be results oriented. A5 is not a hand you should be calling raises with.

2) I am on the button and am delt pocket 2's. I was just beat from a CO raise with AK the hand before. Bet comes to me with UTG call one MP call CO raise. I fold them as my thinking is I am not going to be able to control the flow after the flop with the CO raise so my only saving grace will be to make my set. Well sure enough a 2 comes out on the flop and I give up another nice pot.

This decision is closer - close between folding and calling. I don't think either is a big mistake. With the excellent position I call if I don't expect the blinds or limpers to 3-bet, and if I expect good action postflop in the event I flop a set.

3) Pocket 8's in UTG position and I fold. All cards came out garbage with a 9 high. Pair of 4's takes down the pot.

In most (typical to passive) games this is an easy limp, in tougher games this is a fold. If your image is tight in a tight game, a raise is probably in order. Actually if the game is too tough to play 88 UTG, look for a better game if you can.

Good luck
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Old 10-29-2004, 01:39 PM
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I'm really torn between recommending you stay at 15/30 so I can take your money and recommending dropping down so you don't go broke.


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We can always use some more players down in the 5/10 games [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-29-2004, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: Question about MP on a 15/30

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Any comments on the above will be much appreciated.

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U gonna lose yo money.
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