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Old 10-27-2004, 04:48 PM
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Default Make the Case that FoxNews promotes a \"Conservative\" Agenda

Well? My guess is that they actually provide some air time for the "coservative" point of view.
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Old 10-27-2004, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: Make the Case that FoxNews promotes a \"Conservative\" Agenda

http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/foxbias.htm

What're you gonna believe? The "fair and balanced" slogan or your own lying eyes?
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Old 10-27-2004, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: Make the Case that FoxNews promotes a \"Conservative\" Agenda

The main reason FoxNews appears biased towards the Republicans and conservatives is because we compmare Fox's news coverage to the rest of the media. Fox maybe ideologically biased and it may not. But, whether they are or not, they are going to appear that way because there is no doubt they are considerably to the right of the rest of the media.

Try to visualize an ideological spectrum. On the far left is point 0- the most liberal poiint possible. On the far right is point 100- the most conservative point possible. Point 50 in the middle is the ideal "objective" point.

Where whould you put CBS News, FoxNews, and the New York Times?
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Old 10-27-2004, 07:19 PM
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Default Re: Make the Case that FoxNews promotes a \"Conservative\" Agenda

Interesting link, although I couldn't find a single article that showed the agenda.

Make a case for yourself, or at least point me in the right direction.

You might as well have said go to "www.google.com".

The question is not whether or not fox is further right than other networks, or at least more sympathetic to the right.
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Old 10-27-2004, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: Make the Case that FoxNews promotes a \"Conservative\" Agenda

i would put fox news at a 75
air america a 10
npr 25
cnn, nbc, abc all between 45 and 55 depending on the issue etc.
i don't watn enough cbs or read any new york times.
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Old 10-27-2004, 07:22 PM
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Default Re: Make the Case that FoxNews promotes a \"Conservative\" Agenda

Shep Smith and the G-Block are a 50 (perfectly nuetral) as far as I can tell.

O'reilly, I can't decide sometimes he seems like he's a 30, other times he seems like a 65 to me. I guess it depends on the mood. I've seen him really lay into Bush, but I've never seen him lay into Kerry real hard. I don't blame him he has conflict of interest. If he's too hard on the guests he can't get them on. It's hard enough for him to get certain left wingers on so whenever he does he tends he doesn't lay into them as much as he could. I've seen countless interviews where he could lay into some guests with information I know he knows but doesn't. It's nothing to bad though. He always allows Dems and republicans on and does the show fairly. Still I think it's around nuetral.

Beltway boys.... 80-90. They are hardcore right wingers.

Hannity and Colms. Hannity drives the show, but Colms is just as much as a left wing nut as Colms. Since Hannity dominates I have to say 55, but anyone with a brain can see through his bull. They still run the show fairly. Leftys and rightys both get their chances.

I don't watch anything else on fox.
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Old 10-27-2004, 07:28 PM
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I put CNN as 15-20. In fact it has a nick name... it's the communist news network.

NYT... Considering they call Bush and everyone else in the government the "radical right" I have to give them a 20-30.

Friedman (of the NYT's) is good though, I give him a 40.


My scale 90 = useless right news
0/100 = flat out lies.

10 = useless left news

20 = rarely usefull left news
80 = " " right "
30= sometimes usefull left news
70= " " right "
40 = usefull left news
60 = usefull left news
........
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Old 10-27-2004, 07:34 PM
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Sorry if Dynasty and my posts hijack your thread adios. I'll stop on that subject.
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Old 10-27-2004, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: Make the Case that FoxNews promotes a \"Conservative\" Agenda

I hesitate even to respond to someone who is so in denial about Fox that he thinks that the piece with made-up Kerry quotes that showed up on Fox's website was "done by one of their personalities who is a known conservative". Hint: It was written by the REPORTER assigned to cover the Kerry campaign. So either (1) Fox is using a "personality who is a known conservative" as a hard news reporter, which gives away the store right there; or (2) its hard news reporters are biased, and Fox cares not a whit (I note that the guy in question was not reassigned, nor was he disciplined, as far as we know).

That having been said, a good indication of the agenda comes in many of the internal Fox memos available here:

http://www.wonkette.com/archives/fox...tch-017613.php
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Old 10-27-2004, 07:58 PM
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Hey Wacki, you once wrote: [ QUOTE ]
It must really pain you guys to know that Fox News is the most watched news network

[/ QUOTE ] When you wrote this, I assumed that you were saying Fox had more viewers, and I agreed with this. I wondered how CNN claimed that more people watch CNN. Well, CNN was right and I was wrong, Fox has fewer viewers, they watch longer, but CNN has higher number of viewers. This one reason why CNN charges more for their ads. So Fox has fewer, buy much more "faithful" viewers. CNN has more people watching them on any given day.

So its a myth that Fox is more popular than CNN. Were you aware that more people actually watch the Communist News Network?

http://www.fair.org/extra/0404/fox-ratings.html
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