Your insights on these hands Part III

kleraudio · #1 10-12-2004, 04:21 PM

hello everyone, thanks again in advance for the help, this is the last part and i wont bore you anymore [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Hand #1:
was this a correct call? UTG is a rock, this i knew but blinds were huge and are stacks were close, was call correct or should i have folded?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (5 handed) converter

Button (t1020)
Hero (t1450)
BB (t2410)
UTG (t1730)
MP (t1390)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises to t1730 (All-In), MP folds, Button folds, Hero calls t1300 (All-In), BB folds.

Flop: (t3480) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: (t3480) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t3480) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t3480

Hand #2
different tourney. my read on this opponent was loose aggressive, would you have made this call?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter

Button (t435)
SB (t1200)
BB (t1030)
UTG (t685)
UTG+1 (t1370)
MP1 (t1105)
Hero (t845)
MP3 (t490)
CO (t840)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t50, Hero calls t50, MP3 raises to t490 (All-In), CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls t440.

Flop: (t1105) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t1105) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t1105) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: t1105

thanks again for everyones help, results later

Jim [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

unfrgvn · #2 10-12-2004, 05:21 PM

My .02.

Hand 1, many players will make this move with an under pair, or a worse A than yours. So I don't think calling is incorrect. Having said that, I probably would have folded if I really felt he was playing an under pair. I just hate having to catch to win a pot. If my stack is smaller then I think it's an auto call.

Hand 2. Even if your read of this player is correct, he is liable to have 2 over cards to your 4's. So if you call I think the best you can expect to be is a small favorite. You could also easily be a big dog to an overpair. I really try to avoid situations that are at best a coin flip, so I think I would have folded. 10's or above I'm calling.

kleraudio · #3 10-12-2004, 05:39 PM

thanks for the insightful post, i think that second hand is a leak in my game that i will definitely work on.

Jim [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

DyessMan89 · #4 10-12-2004, 05:46 PM

Hand #1: Nothing wrong with what you did. You're getting low in chips and this move would GREATLY help your chip stack. AK is a nice hand, and to win you have to take risks.

Hand #2: I would call. MP3 is getting very low in chips and it appears (to me atleast) that he needs to make a move and he doesnt have a huge hand. (although he certainly could) You're still in decent shape if you lose, but you'll be chip-leader is you call and win. It all depends on the read of your opponent is, though. If he played ROCK TIGHT all game, Id probobly lay this down.

lastchance · #5 10-12-2004, 07:21 PM

#1, easy, easy, easy call. AK is awesome, you have less than 5x BB, though you have an average stack. Can't possibly imagine laying this down.

#2, I fold. He probably has 2 overs or an overpair, small favorite-big dog situation. Still got a decent stack, and I don't want to call half of my stack away with 4s.

SmileyEH · #6 10-12-2004, 07:25 PM

Are you nuts?

I would rather shoot myself in the face than fold #1.
"" "" call #2.

-SmileyEH

kleraudio · #7 10-14-2004, 07:52 PM

hey everyone, as promised here are the results

Hand #1

Final Pot: t3480
Main Pot: t3200 (t3200), between Hero and UTG. > Pot won by UTG (t3200).
Pot 2: t280 (t280), returned to UTG.

Results in blue below: 
Hero has As Kd (high card, ace).
UTG has Ks Kh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG wins t3480. 

Hand #2

Final Pot: t1105
Main Pot: t1105 (t1105), between Hero and MP3. > Pot won by MP3 (t1105).

Results in blue below: 
Hero has 4s 4d (one pair, fours).
MP3 has Kd 9s (straight, king high).
Outcome: MP3 wins t1105. 

Nice huh [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Jim [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]