-200 BB graph and VPIP questions

btspider · #1 10-09-2004, 08:18 PM

9000 hands and 18 days after I was literally one win away from my 1/2 goal of 10K hands and 300+ BB's, I am finally over the hump*. I finish my 1/2 stretch at a modest +1.57 BB/100, but I think I'm a much better player for surviving this.

While I'm trying not to overanalyze my stats, I did notice a distinct drop in my VPIP pre and post slide. In the 13K hands up to and including the slide, I was a 16.38 VPIP player. In the 5.5K (sample size disclaimer), I have been playing at 14.72 VPIP. Do others find VPIP changes to be a typical response to your more severe down (and up?) swings?

I'm fine with having a sub 15 VPIP, but am always on the lookout for changes in my play and want to re-include the more marginal profitable 1/2 situations.

* Actually I'm at +297 BB's, so barring another slide, I hope to be playing 2/4 later this weekend.

Ajax410 · #2 10-09-2004, 08:20 PM

Nice recovery - how'd you get this in graph form? I'm curiuos how my hands would look.

btspider · #3 10-09-2004, 08:25 PM

1. Pokertracker - session tab - print - export to excel
2. Excel - Define two aggregate columns for cumulative hands and BB's (example D3 would be: =SUM(C3+D2))
3. Excel - create XY plot, line only, chart
4. Excel - Convert chart to GIF. (easier way?)
5. Host and Post

uw_madtown · #4 10-09-2004, 09:28 PM

I actually had a 168 BB downslide and didn't realize it... [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

bisonbison · #5 10-09-2004, 09:32 PM

your VPIP slipping is as much effect as cause. Sometimes you get bad cards.

rjc199 · #6 10-09-2004, 09:42 PM

Hi Spider,

I just got my 300BB's at 1/2 in 10k hands, so I'm now moving up to 2/4 so I guess I will see you there.

That was one incredible slide. My worst has been around 100BB's.

I also noticed that after a slide I got more tighter. My VP$IP in the last 4k hands has been around 16%. I don't know if that is too low or not for 1/2. I really can't think of any more hands to play, the tables just aren't juicy enough alot of the time to be playing speculative cards from EP.

btspider · #7 10-09-2004, 09:49 PM

cool. with the micros, its always cool when generations of players move up together.

as for the VPIP, it may just be the cards over a small sample or added 1/2 experience. my aggression went up, so I don't think I was getting gunshy.

Gatts · #8 10-09-2004, 10:16 PM

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I really can't think of any more hands to play, the tables just aren't juicy enough alot of the time to be playing speculative cards from EP.

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I really think that's the big reason. It's not necessarily bad cards, but maybe bad tables.

Quercus · #9 10-09-2004, 10:37 PM

The long sideways slide...

Peter Principle · #10 10-09-2004, 10:44 PM

Thanks for pointing out how to do this!!! PokerTracker is awesome, and I think that I know how to use about 10% of its features.

I was feeling pretty down about the latest downswing that I have been experiencing (W$SD < 30% for last 700 hands or so!!!), but seeing things in picture form helps keep the confidence from dropping too far.