Key Hand #1: 2 table SNG Who plays it differently?

[Desdia72]

this was probably the 2nd hand into the final table so most of the players in on the hand were players i had'nt played with so i had no gauge on their play. at any rate, i felt a mini-raise would give me more value, which it did, but it obviously did'nt work out in the end. in hindsight, i probably still would've gotten called even with a 3X BB raise. i saw one big stack call a 3X BB raise preflop with 3 5o and win. some of these guys were winning with all kinds of crazy hands.

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PokerStars Game #754894173: Tournament #2953612, Hold'em No Limit -
Level IV (50/100) - 2004/10/08 - 22:57:10 (ET)
Table '2953612 2' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: emoflash (3490 in chips)
Seat 2: Rookie30 (3850 in chips)
Seat 3: CJ Win (3740 in chips)
Seat 4: xgolfpro (2025 in chips)
Seat 5: Zero G (920 in chips)
Seat 6: RedDoggy (3250 in chips)
Seat 7: ConnVBPA43 (3370 in chips)
Seat 8: 69polishski (5410 in chips)
Seat 9: Desdia72 (945 in chips)
RedDoggy: posts small blind 50
ConnVBPA43: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Desdia72 [Ad Ac]
69polishski: folds
Desdia72: raises 100 to 200
emoflash: folds
Rookie30: folds
CJ Win: calls 200
xgolfpro: folds
Zero G: folds
RedDoggy: calls 150
ConnVBPA43: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [Ts 9h Jh]
RedDoggy: checks
ConnVBPA43: bets 400
Desdia72: raises 345 to 745 and is all-in
CJ Win: calls 745
RedDoggy: raises 2305 to 3050 and is all-in
ConnVBPA43: folds
CJ Win: folds
*** TURN *** [Ts 9h Jh] [Jd]
*** RIVER *** [Ts 9h Jh Jd] [5h]
ConnVBPA43 said, "wow"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
RedDoggy: shows [7h Th] (a flush, Jack high)
Desdia72: shows [Ad Ac] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
Desdia72 said, "nh"
RedDoggy collected 3435 from pot
RedDoggy said, "tx"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3435 | Rake 0
Board [Ts 9h Jh Jd 5h]
Seat 1: emoflash folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Rookie30 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: CJ Win folded on the Flop
Seat 4: xgolfpro folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Zero G (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: RedDoggy (small blind) showed [7h Th] and won (3435) with a
flush, Jack high
Seat 7: ConnVBPA43 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: 69polishski folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Desdia72 showed [Ad Ac] and lost with two pair, Aces and Jacks

[Cleveland Guy]

you have just under 10Xbb left. Why mess around with a min raise? He did catch his draw, but it's partially cause you let him play for cheap.

Just push this pre-flop.

[RobGW]

You brought this upon yourself. Go all in pre flop.

[betgo]

I wouldn't go allin preflop from second position for 9xBB. You want action with AA. I think you have to miniraise or limp. A bigger nonallin raise might look suspicious, since you might only play that way with a big pair.

That was a nasty flop, but you got your money in with the advantage plus a lot of dead money on the pot.

[Desdia72]

i did'nt like my position, which is why i felt the mini-raise was best. i did'nt like the idea of pushing all-in pf from such an early position either. had i been in mp or lp with limpers and raisers in front, then it definitely would've been push city.

[ligastar]

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but you got your money in with the advantage plus a lot of dead money on the pot.

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fwiw, desdia is a 42/58 dog after this flop to the hand he was up against

Greg H.

[Desdia72]

that i'm playing way too LAG on?

[DyessMan89]

I would have raised more pre-flop, although I wouldnt have gone all-in with it.

I also wouldnt have gone all-in on the flop, because theres so much (with that flop) that has (or could have) aces beat.

[Roman]

well you are crazy [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

I usually raise this to 250 pf and push any flop.

Your line was fine but I dont like giving those kinda odds to anyone.

[Desdia72]

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well you are crazy [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

I usually raise this to 250 pf and push any flop.

Your line was fine but I dont like giving those kinda odds to anyone.

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a 250 raise is not much better than a 200 raise. in this instance, a 250 raise and push on the flop does'nt change anything with the same cards.

again, i ask, "is this one of the hands (adanthar) says that i'm playing too way LAG?" maybe this is one of those hands where i'm 'calling for the right price'. hmmmmmmm.