2 QTs hands. Party 3/6.

bisonbison · #1 10-08-2004, 06:54 PM

Contained below are 2 QTs hands from the same table within an orbit of each other.

For the first hand, I'd like comments on the whole hand. For the second, I'm just going to start with the preflop action, cause postflop sorta played itself.

player reads are included with each hand:

Hand 1:

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 (Reasonable) raises, 1 fold, MP2 (LAG) calls, 2 folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB (V.Loose-Any2Suited) calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 players)
Hero checks, V.Loose-Any2Suited bets, UTG folds, Reasonable raises, LAG calls, Button folds, Hero calls, V.Loose-Any2Suited calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, V.Loose-Any2Suited checks, Reasonable bets, LAG raises, Hero calls, V.Loose-Any2Suited calls, Reasonable calls.

River: (18 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, V.Loose-Any2Suited checks, Reasonable checks, LAG bets, Hero raises...

bisonbison · #2 10-08-2004, 06:55 PM

Hand 2: (note v.loose-any2suited is to my immediate left)

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 (LAG) calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises...

Trix · #3 10-08-2004, 06:59 PM

I like 3betting the flop, the river will depend how often I think some of the people between will call if I bet out, but it will usually be a bet I guess.

Trix · #4 10-08-2004, 07:03 PM

Think I´d raise T9s+,KJs, but limp KTs and below here.

sthief09 · #5 10-08-2004, 07:10 PM

1st hand: loose call preflop. bet the river and 3-bet when he raises. I don't like shutting out the field here.

2nd hand: QTs isn't a very good hand (it's good, just not that good). I'd just limp

mikeyvegas · #6 10-08-2004, 07:20 PM

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Hand 2: (note v.loose-any2suited is to my immediate left)

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 (LAG) calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises...

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I would not raise in this position after 3 limpers and a loose player on your left.

mikeyvegas · #7 10-08-2004, 07:27 PM

PF: I'm cool with that.
Flop: I would go for the check-raise on the flop, and jump at the chance at the check/3-bet having like 11 outs to great hands and 1 to the mortal nutz.
Turn: I cold call here, I refuse to be afraid of boards pairing when I have live draws.
River: Yeah, not sure on this one. Check-raise vs. leading out seems to be pretty close. What was your reasoning?

I guess I lead out so I wouldn't have to deal with a 3-bet.

JimRivett · #8 10-08-2004, 07:47 PM

Hand 1 I would fold from the small blind in this situation. However seeing as you proceeded with the hand, I'd play it the way you did, except I may bet the river because of the possibility of getting more calls, as opposed to check raising the river.

Hand 2 seems fine

Regards, Jim

Chris Daddy Cool · #9 10-08-2004, 08:01 PM

i think you purposely posted hand 2 just to get me to bite.

of course i like the raise. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

JinX11 · #10 10-08-2004, 09:02 PM

Of course I am very biased against QTs, as you may know from previous posts.... Like pocket 6s, QTs is a major drain on my bankroll.

Seems like it's a close enough on all streets to me. Calling a PFR in SB with QTs seems a little sketchy - obviously, you're behind and out of position.... I suppose all the other cold calls make up for it.... Maybe overcalls on the end?????