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Old 10-08-2004, 05:04 PM
Homer315 Homer315 is offline
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Default How Stupid is my friend?

My friend emailed me this hand, and we disagree vehemently about his turn play. He didn't have a great read but thought that the players were relatively, though not super, tight. Thoughts? (forgot to add, he "accidentally" hit RAISE preflop. Ignore that stupid play for now)

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (6.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.
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Old 10-08-2004, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: How Stupid is my friend?

God bless him.
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Old 10-08-2004, 05:08 PM
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Default Re: How Stupid is my friend?

he should bet the turn.
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Old 10-08-2004, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: How Stupid is my friend?

His turn play is atrocious--the initial check sucks, and once it's bet, not check-raising is criminal.

What scale are we using to measure how stupid this is? I need context to properly answer your question.
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Old 10-08-2004, 05:11 PM
bdk3clash bdk3clash is offline
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Default Re: How Stupid is my friend?

By the way, we can't really "ignore" the raise preflop, since button's range of hands is those he's coldcalling an MP raise with.

Why did you put "accidentally" in quotes? Is there some nonzero chance your friend raised preflop on purpose?
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Old 10-08-2004, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: How Stupid is my friend?

I might go for a check-raise on the turn, but I can see betting it as well. Check-calling seems like a terrible option.
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Old 10-08-2004, 05:12 PM
InchoateHand InchoateHand is offline
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Default Re: How Stupid is my friend?

I'm giving him a stupidity ratio of about 13.2 : 1.7, where the first number is his stupidity and the second number the maximum stupidity associated with still sentient beings.

See, when I was reading the action I thought I was going to write "FPS" but he didn't even do that on the turn...
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Old 10-08-2004, 05:13 PM
Ralph Wiggum Ralph Wiggum is offline
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Default Re: How Stupid is my friend?

He raised preflop. He hit check, and then again hit call on the turn. That's a lot of accidents.
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Old 10-08-2004, 05:13 PM
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Default Re: How Stupid is my friend?

What was his reasoning for check/calling the turn?
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Old 10-08-2004, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: How Stupid is my friend?

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What was his reasoning for check/calling the turn?

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Stupidity?
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