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Old 10-08-2004, 02:46 PM
AtlChip10 AtlChip10 is offline
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Default Bad Run Checkup, Few TP Hands

I've stumbled upon a testing bad run over the past 5k hands, and I just want to be sure I am playing my single pair hands correctly, as I think this is where I tend to lose most of my money anyway. Any replies are much appreciated.

Hand #1 TPTK w/ BDNFD

Reads: None, brand new to table.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">MP2 3-bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Do I cap the flop here with no read on my opponent?

Turn: (11.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

He continues his aggression, my flush is out of the question, standard call down?

River: (15.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

Final Pot: 17.25 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 17.25 BB, between Hero and MP2.</font>


Hand #2 TPGK w/ BDNFD (get CR'd on flop)

Reads: Villain is a tight/tricky player

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">6 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">BB raises</font>, UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls.

He doesn't cap it, so I have him on 2P at best.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Since I am doubting my hand's strength, I figure I will take the free card and call down a lead by him.

River: (6.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 8.25 BB, between Hero and BB.</font>


Hand #3 Turned TPGK (after checked flop)

Reads: None

I think I played this hand poorly, just wondering what the correct path would have been.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="666666">2 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Should have raised pre-flop?

Flop: (4 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks.

Turn: (2 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Do I call down, or fold...or make it 3? heh

River: (10 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls, BB folds.

Final Pot: 12 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 12 BB, between Hero and UTG.</font>
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Old 10-08-2004, 03:07 PM
MoreWineII MoreWineII is offline
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Default Re: Bad Run Checkup, Few TP Hands

Hand 1: I cap the flop. TPTK + BDNFD is enough for me.

Hand 2: Bet the turn. I think you're giving too much credit.

Hand 3: Raise PF. Ask Bison. I would probably 3-bet the turn.

Here's my thinking: Villian doesn't have AT as he checked the flop. Probably not A4 or A5 for the same reason, but maybe. TT, nah, woulda raised PF. 44 or 55, maybe, might have been slow-playing but still doubtful. I'm thinking Ace-medium kicker. If capped, I call down.

Edit: Sounds like you lost all of these hands to some fluky two-pair/weird draw but I would still play them aggressively in the future.
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Old 10-08-2004, 03:45 PM
crockett crockett is offline
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Default Re: Bad Run Checkup, Few TP Hands

Hand 1: I normally don't cap but now that I think about you have quite a bit of value here. The only person you face with 2 cold is the BB and if he calls you'll have four people going to the the turn holding TPTK w/ BDNFD. Hmmm....Others? Is this too aggressive?

Hand 2: There is no way I'm checking this turn! I bet.

Hand 3:

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Should have raised pre-flop?

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Yes, I always do but I would PM Bison a pointer to this thread and see what he thinks.

The turn decision is one I still struggle with and frankly am clueless as what to do. You know someone just hit their two pair Ace-rag and the pot is small so I might fold but I feel like a tool doing it so sometimes I just cold call. I rarely 3-bet unless I have some good reads.
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Old 10-08-2004, 03:51 PM
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Default Re: Bad Run Checkup, Few TP Hands

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Should have raised pre-flop?

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Yes, I always do but I would PM Bison a pointer to this thread and see what he thinks.


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What would Bison Bison do
If he was here right now
He'd raise pre-flop and bet out too
That's what Bison Bison would do
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Old 10-08-2004, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: Bad Run Checkup, Few TP Hands

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What would Bison Bison do
If he was here right now
He'd raise pre-flop and bet out too
That's what Bison Bison would do

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