well, it *was* top pair

Jimbobobb · #1 10-08-2004, 03:10 AM

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero raises, SB folds, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, MP3 calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets, MP3 calls, hero........

someone who I don't think of as bad argued with me about my turn play here. Wondering what the board concensus is here and why....

bonanz · #2 10-08-2004, 03:50 AM

no reads?

did the lrr mean anything? i get the feeling an ace was just hit, but its also a spade with 3 opponents doesnt make me feel good, and a queen out probably has to be discounted and it can't be a spade...

if i'm multitabling and talking on the phone watching a movie and have no reads, i fold...

Jimbobobb · #3 10-08-2004, 03:53 AM

I don't think reads are important for this decision - anyone disagree?

bonanz · #4 10-08-2004, 04:01 AM

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yeah i don't think it matters much about reads. what i meant with all that stuff about having no reads is that this is a default fold situation. but when someone lrr it always makes me do a double take and check my notes...

Smasharoo · #5 10-08-2004, 04:09 AM

You have at most 4 outs, you may be drawing dead. Fold.

DMBFan23 · #6 10-08-2004, 11:29 AM

I think knowing how UTG plays overcards on the flop would be a nice read to have.

EDIT: his limp reraising standards would be a nice read too.

Nottom · #7 10-08-2004, 11:48 AM

Hero folds.

I really don't see how you can be ahead unless UTG is a total goofball.

Nottom · #8 10-08-2004, 11:50 AM

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You have at most 4 outs, you may be drawing dead. Fold.

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Well, he has at most something like 30 outs but thats highly unlikely.

Bez · #9 10-08-2004, 12:02 PM

Fold.