88 pocket overpair

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Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 (poster) checks, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, SB calls, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: (12.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, SB calls, Hero ???

Do we call this? How about the rest of the hand? Flop overplayed? Turn bet a bit much? Chime in folks.

[Luv2DriveTT]

check-call the turn for 1 bet.

[Chris Daddy Cool]

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check-call the turn for 1 bet.

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Why?

[Chris Daddy Cool]

The K didn't help him. If you called the raise on the turn, you should call this bet, unless you're concerned about having to overcall the SB.

[tiltaholic]

Hi-
The flop 3-bet I like. I'd probably wuss out and just call.
But the turn I am unsure about.
When SB doesn't raise I think you're either way behind MP2 or you're good. Must call the river bet - you are good at least 10% of the time, likely much more.

-t

[detruncate]

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The K didn't help him. If you called the raise on the turn, you should call this bet, unless you're concerned about having to overcall the SB.

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The K didn't help him, but it also didn't help me. I had straight outs to (possibly) bail me out if the turn completed his draw. I'm not really worried about overcalling. SB probably would have raised his flush. I felt there was very little chance I was good. I called anyway... but I think it was most likely a bad decision.

[detruncate]

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Must call the river bet - you are good at least 10% of the time, likely much more.

-t

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You think so? Bah. My river play sucks. I'm swinging between folding/calling too much.

[tiltaholic]

Dude, don't assume you are wrong.
Compared to me, I think you are the expert here...
It's easy for me to sat, "yeah, sure, call it" without sitting there actually giving away money to these people. I'm not sure it's the correct play - I think my tendancy to call this would depend a lot on my read of the villian. If he wild and crazy, sure, he could have an overpair to my 8s, but it's equally likely he had Ax looking for the X to make a one card straight. If he's really passive, he probably has 2-pair...

Looking forward to the results.

[detruncate]

It's not so much that I'm ready to concede the point... I found it interesting that your read of the situation differed so much from mine. Gives me something to think about.

I appreciate the compliment, but it would be a huge stretch to call myself an expert in relation to anyone who regularly posts here. I just have lots of practice pretending to know what I'm talking about.

[bakku]

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The K didn't help him. If you called the raise on the turn, you should call this bet, unless you're concerned about having to overcall the SB.

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He has to call the turn raise with an OESD.