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Old 09-25-2004, 12:24 AM
callingstation callingstation is offline
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Default folding in big pot when u might be drawing dead

Absolute poker 5/10 (9 handed)

Hero is in EMP with J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 1 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds, button calls, SB completes, BB raise, all call

flop(6 player, 12SB): 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
checked to button(loose passive) bets, folded to UTG+1(loose passive)who calls, i call

3 to turn: (7.5BB)7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
checked to button who bets, UTG+1 raise, Hero?????????, 10.5BB, now i facing two BB cold and may need to pay as much as 4BB to see the river. I was multitabling and didn't have much time to think. I felt that i maybe drawing dead and folded.

button only calls [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

river: 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG+1 bets, button calls

Results: UTG+1 shows 6c7c(str8, 6-T)
button mucks

My hand would be good if i stayed

My question is should u stay here with this draw? I would definitely call 2BB if no one behinds me, but with the button behind me, I could be paying as much as 8BB to get to the showdown(if i hit str8 or flush, i cannot laydown on river). And i have only one clean outs, 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Advice?
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Old 09-25-2004, 12:36 AM
jrobb83 jrobb83 is offline
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Default Re: folding in big pot when u might be drawing dead

You have such a strong draw that I think you can call here and see the river. Any [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9, or 8 gives you a very strong hand. If it is 3-bet and capped, you can pretty safely fold, so it shouldn't ever cost you 4 BB to see the river.
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Old 09-25-2004, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: folding in big pot when u might be drawing dead

I muck this preflop. On the turn, unless I've got a LA-P read on UTG+1, I call, with (3) cards to my gutshot, 2 cards to a boat and 9 more to a flush.

I'm not a routine SS player, though, so I'd like to hear from others here.

Rob
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Old 09-25-2004, 12:39 AM
AnteGravity AnteGravity is offline
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Default Re: folding in big pot when u might be drawing dead

The preflop limp is very loose, I prolly wouldn't play that hand unless I'm in the SB, get to complete my small blind, and have two or more limpers in there with me.

In the flop pot is big and your seeing lots of passive play. To me, I have middle pair, a kicker bigger then the highest board card, a backdoor flush and an inside striaght on the top end. Thus I would get very violent here and raise this sucker hard. Be the agressor here.

Turn: The same as the flop, I would bet if checked to me.

River: Value bet if checked to, thats for sure.
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Old 09-25-2004, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: folding in big pot when u might be drawing dead

I don't like the preflop limp.

I would likely raise the flop.

I'm not fond of folding straight-flush draws in biggish pots.
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Old 09-25-2004, 01:19 AM
Bob T. Bob T. is offline
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Default Re: folding in big pot when u might be drawing dead

I was multitabling and didn't have much time to think.

If I gave you advice, would you have time to think about using it [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]?

I think you had enough outs that you likely had enough to continue. If you make your hand, other than the straight flush, and you get raised, I think that it might be time to slow down.
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Old 09-25-2004, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: folding in big pot when u might be drawing dead

And i have only one clean outs, 9

We're all dirty in this sin-cursed world. But an eight is pretty damn clean. And I'd love to see an overcard diamond.
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