Flush...very big pot

hmohnphd · #1 09-07-2004, 03:16 AM

Multitabling with no real reads...

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO raises, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (14.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7 players)
BB bets, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO raises, Button folds, BB 3-bets, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO caps, BB calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Ok. I felt really passive here, but I don't really need to protect my hand (I think), so I just call when BB leads. When it came back around, should I have capped for value even though MP3 would have had to call 3 cold?

Turn: (17.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, MP2 calls, MP3 raises, CO calls, BB 3-bets, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 caps, CO calls, BB calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

I think leading out is best as I dont want to risk this being check around. However, once MP3 raises and BB check/3-bets, my 7-high flush is not looking as good. Is there anything else that would cause MP3 to come alive and BB to c/r this for 3 bets? Should I have capped regardless?

River: (37.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 raises, CO calls, BB calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 47.25 BB

Now, after being scared on the turn, I check/call river (obviously I'm not folding in this monster pot). However, I think I played this hand very passively from the flop on.

Comments appreciated.

Gatts · #2 09-07-2004, 03:19 AM

You might lose flush over flush, but the flop is getting capped... I think it's more likely you're up against sets, 2 pair, straight draws...

I'm putting as much money into the put, and if I lose flush over flush, it happens.

RED_RAIN · #3 09-07-2004, 05:16 AM

Your hand sucks preflop. Fold, you won't keep it a winner long term. I promise.

Check the turn, no way this is getting checked through after capped on flop.

I honestly don't think you have the best hand on the turn. I know what people say about pot size bla bla bla, stat this, page that. I could careless. check/3 bet always shows nuts or near nuts. Most of the time nuts. Maybe not the straight flush, but I will be pretty sure he has a better flush than your mere 7 high. Heck I bet MP3 has you beat too.

Gatts · #4 09-07-2004, 06:59 AM

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Your hand sucks preflop. Fold, you won't keep it a winner long term. I promise.

Check the turn, no way this is getting checked through after capped on flop.

I honestly don't think you have the best hand on the turn. I know what people say about pot size bla bla bla, stat this, page that. I could careless. check/3 bet always shows nuts or near nuts. Most of the time nuts. Maybe not the straight flush, but I will be pretty sure he has a better flush than your mere 7 high. Heck I bet MP3 has you beat too.

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Yeah, there are three flushes out there. Crazy clubs.

helpmeout · #5 09-07-2004, 08:08 AM

I disagree totally 76s is a decent hand multiway, you only need 5 callers for it to have value.

Why be so scared of a higher flush, for all you know CO could have AA, BB could have T4, TT or 44 and MP3 could have KJo.

No way am I folding this, sure its likely you will be beat by a higher flush but not often enough to fold.

Kips Bay Kid · #6 09-07-2004, 09:17 AM

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I disagree totally 76s is a decent hand multiway, you only need 5 callers for it to have value.

Why be so scared of a higher flush, for all you know CO could have AA, BB could have T4, TT or 44 and MP3 could have KJo.

No way am I folding this, sure its likely you will be beat by a higher flush but not often enough to fold.

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I agree the bettors could have AA, TT, and/or AKo (with the Kc) What did happen?

hmohnphd · #7 09-07-2004, 10:05 AM

Final Pot: 47.25 BB

Results in white below: 
BB has As 4d (two pair, aces and fours).
Hero has 6c 7c (flush, ace high).
MP2 has 3s Kc (high card, ace).
MP3 has 3c 2c (flush, ace high).
CO has Th Td (three of a kind, tens).
Outcome: Hero wins 47.25 BB.

Kips Bay Kid · #8 09-07-2004, 10:15 AM

Ha - I was going to say there's decent chance someone had a lower flush then you, but I did not want to get laughed at, then again this is micros so it was not out of the realm of possibility. Would you have played it the same way again?

Sent · #9 09-07-2004, 11:02 AM

Besides folding PF [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I am capping this turn and raising the river and taking it from there.

-Sent

afk · #10 09-07-2004, 11:26 AM

I'd also raise the flop the first time around.