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Old 08-31-2004, 09:33 PM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Did Matusow realize that he was behind?

I know it's a coinflip, but it seems like he thought that he was a decent favorite there.
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Old 08-31-2004, 09:34 PM
NotMitch NotMitch is offline
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Default Re: Did Matusow realize that he was behind?

He wasnt behind but he he was an underdog.

PS "Thanks for busting me Mike" priceless.
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Old 08-31-2004, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: Did Matusow realize that he was behind?

He knew he was behind ("Please God let me get lucky once..." or something like that)
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Old 09-04-2004, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: Did Matusow realize that he was behind?

but he also said later he'd make the same play again -- suggesting he didn't realize even afterwords that he had been the underdog. In any case, you only had to watch, and especially listen to him, to realize his brain was scrambled. The guy needs psychiatric treatment -- his constant threat to kill himself if he didn't win the tournament creeped me out big time (he's like Stu Ungar minus the card-playing ability)
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Old 09-05-2004, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: Did Matusow realize that he was behind?

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but he also said later he'd make the same play again -- suggesting he didn't realize even afterwords that he had been the underdog. In any case, you only had to watch, and especially listen to him, to realize his brain was scrambled. The guy needs psychiatric treatment -- his constant threat to kill himself if he didn't win the tournament creeped me out big time (he's like Stu Ungar minus the card-playing ability)

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He was a tiny dog. Big deal. Basically the same odds as a pair vs overs pre-flop.

I don't see what was wrong with the call at all. He had a great read on Greg. If Greg had just overs, or just the flush draw, Mike is a nice favorite. Unfortunately he had both. Even so it was basically a coin flip.
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Old 08-31-2004, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: Did Matusow realize that he was behind?

The guy down at the other end of the table mentioned "Well he didn't exactly have nothing, he was on a draw". Actually, it was Matusow who was on the draw since Raymer was a favorite.
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Old 08-31-2004, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: Did Matusow realize that he was behind?

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The guy down at the other end of the table mentioned "Well he didn't exactly have nothing, he was on a draw". Actually, it was Matusow who was on the draw since Raymer was a favorite.

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As much as I enjoyed the fact that Raymer won, it was Raymer who was drawing, albeit as a favorite.
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Old 08-31-2004, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: Did Matusow realize that he was behind?

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The guy down at the other end of the table mentioned "Well he didn't exactly have nothing, he was on a draw". Actually, it was Matusow who was on the draw since Raymer was a favorite.

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As much as I enjoyed the fact that Raymer won, it was Raymer who was drawing, albeit as a favorite.

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I think you're looking at the situation wrong. Raymer isn't drawing with his overcards and flush draw. He's winning. It doesn't matter that Matusow has a pair of 9's. Raymer is still winning and his opponent is drawing. It's just that he's drawing to cards that won't improve Raymer's hand.

When you've got more than 50% pot equity, you're winning. The guy with less than 50% is drawing.
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Old 08-31-2004, 10:35 PM
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I don't have the TV on...

what exactly was the hand?

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Old 08-31-2004, 10:45 PM
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Default Re: Did Matusow realize that he was behind?

Raymer had AdJd. Matusow had 9s7s. The flop was T,9,rag with two diamonds.

Matusow had raised first-in pre-flop from late position. Raymer reraised from the small blind. Matusow called. Bother players had big stacks. Matusow had Raymer covered.

Raymer bet all-in on the flop and Matusow called.
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