Pair of TT hands

TredWel · #1 08-24-2004, 10:06 AM

Hello. Long time lurker, first time poster sort of thing. Just finished SSH, and my head is swimming. Had a pair of hands come up last night one right after the other at the same table, where I tried to use concepts from the book. The first one I'm fairly sure I played well, but the second one I'm not as confident. I wanted to post them here to get some reactions.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero raises, MP1 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, SB calls.

Flop: (10 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 raises, MP3 calls, CO folds, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, MP1 caps, MP3 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (11 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP3 folds.

River: (13 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB
Main Pot: 15 BB, between MP1 and Hero.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Flop: (14 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+2 bets, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, CO folds, Button folds, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+2 3-bets, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (14.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB
Main Pot: 14.50 BB, between UTG+2, MP1 and Hero. > Pot won by Hero (14.50 BB).

Thanks for any help.

Entity · #2 08-24-2004, 10:12 AM

First one I like very much. Were you up against a big ace or possibly A9o?

The second one I think you still played right. Either seems like an overaggressive 8 (hopefully not A8) or a very pushy flush draw. What was your plan for the river? Check/call?

Rob

TredWel · #3 08-24-2004, 10:18 AM

On the second hand, I check-raised on the flop to try and push out overcards and gutshots, but with the ace falling on the turn I wasn't too pleased. The pot's too big to give up, and I was more than happy to check/call the hand down.

Entity · #4 08-24-2004, 10:21 AM

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On the second hand, I check-raised on the flop to try and push out overcards and gutshots, but with the ace falling on the turn I wasn't too pleased. The pot's too big to give up, and I was more than happy to check/call the hand down.

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In that case, you played it like I would. I'm not sure if that's the right way, though. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Rob

TredWel · #5 08-24-2004, 11:26 AM

Hand 1:
Final Pot: 15 BB
Main Pot: 15 BB, between MP1 and Hero. > Pot won by Hero (15 BB).

Results in white below: 
Hero shows Th Td (three of a kind, tens).
MP1 shows Ac 3c (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 15 BB. 

Hand 2:
Final Pot: 14.50 BB
Main Pot: 14.50 BB, between UTG+2, MP1 and Hero. > Pot won by Hero (14.50 BB).

Results in white below: 
Hero shows Td Tc (two pair, tens and sixes).
UTG+2 shows Kc 8h (two pair, eights and sixes).
MP1 shows 8s 3s (two pair, eights and sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins 14.50 BB.

nolanfan34 · #6 08-24-2004, 12:02 PM

First hand looks great. Second hand I still would have bet out on the turn. Remember that the Ace is a scare card for your opponents too. If you get raised you can call down, but there are plenty of times that no one has an Ace when it's three handed like that.

Nice plays though. TT can be a tough hand to play I think.

Marquis · #7 08-24-2004, 01:43 PM

Anyone else checking the first hand pf and just completing in the second? From the blinds I'm playing TT for the set or for a board like you had in hand 2.

zram21 · #8 08-24-2004, 02:24 PM

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Anyone else checking the first hand pf and just completing in the second? From the blinds I'm playing TT for the set or for a board like you had in hand 2.

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Absolutely not. Failing to raise TT from any position preflop against a bunch of loose limpers in these games is a mistake.

zram21 · #9 08-24-2004, 02:24 PM

Nice to see FOFC boys playing hands well. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

detruncate · #10 08-24-2004, 04:16 PM

Welcome. In hand 1, I'd think about the liklihood of him raising the turn vs the liklihood of him betting out if checked to. What you're trying to figure out is if it's better to bet in hopes of being raised (so you can 3-bet), or to check in hopes getting in a check/raise. There's, of course, the risk that he'll check it through, but with him capping this flop it's probably fairly unlikely. A lot of people shut down on the turn in the face of aggression without a what they consider to be a really big hand, so a c/r is often a good plan when someone else put in the last bet on the flop.

In hand 2, I bet the turn and either fold or call down if raised depending on my read.