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Old 08-19-2004, 12:00 AM
droolie droolie is offline
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Default AA play.

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG folds, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 folds, MP3 calls.

River: (7.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(2 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.25 BB
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Old 08-19-2004, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: AA play.

Seems routine to me.
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Old 08-19-2004, 12:13 AM
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Default Re: AA play.

Pretty standard looking play. Looks a lot like he hit something on the river--if he did maybe he has 9-10 or 7-8...maybe a set of eights. Strange bluff otherwise. But you definitely can't fold here--and I wouldn't pop it up again either.

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Old 08-19-2004, 03:04 AM
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Default Re: AA play.

He could be chasing OESD or flush on flop, and then slow playing the straight he made on the turn, or a set of 8's.

Either way it's worth calling the river raise.
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Old 08-19-2004, 09:08 AM
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Default Re: AA play.

I just needed a little therapy on this one. I hate losing A's like this! (nice looking board all the way, a couple passive callers)

I needed to hear I did the right thing a few times. LOL!

I thought it was obvious I had lost on the river before I called that bet but knew I had to. (The reason being the river better must have known from my betting pattern that I'd call or raise, so therefore a bluff was highly unlikely and single pair of 8's would be ridiculous to bet at that point)

He showed down a set of 8's....
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Old 08-19-2004, 09:29 AM
Fiery Jack Fiery Jack is offline
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Default Not necessarily

Lets explore this (speaking as someone who overplays AA a lot)

a) You know that you are probably beat; all you have is 1 pair.
b) But based on the pot size its about a 10-1 shot when you call that last bet. If he raises with a pair or less its obviously a bluff. If he only has a Q he would have raised before now.

So you are getting 10-1 odds to decide whether he is bluffing or not.

Surely, if you knew that the player would never make such a bluff against you, its wrong to call? If you can discount them having AA, KK due to their pre-flop play?

If however you know nothing about the player, you have to call because the chance they are bluffing 'feels more likely' than 10-1. And you don't want to encourage them to try bluffs, either.

Still, I think I make these calls way more often than I should.
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