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Old 08-17-2004, 03:43 AM
cartoonsoldier cartoonsoldier is offline
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Default QQ hand and AQo hand

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(5 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(4 players)</font>
<font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

River: (23.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Hero folds, <font color="CC3333">MP2 caps</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 32.50 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 32.50 BB, between MP2 and CO.</font>

Main question:
When CO raises me again on the turn...what should be my action? Cold-call, fold? Or is the raise correct?

River fold was easy, I should have folded to CO's bet itself instead of calling it.

No reads again, fresh at the table.

AQo hand
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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, <font color="666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5.20 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

River: (5.20 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="blue">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 8.20 BB
<font color="green">Main Pot: 8.20 BB, between MP1, MP2 and Hero.</font>

No reads.
What are the chances of a fish drawing to the A-high flush?

Bet turn? Raise river?
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Old 08-17-2004, 04:01 AM
Piiop Piiop is offline
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Default Re: QQ hand and AQo hand

Hand 1 - I wouldn't 3-bet the turn.

Hand 2 - Played well.
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Old 08-17-2004, 08:42 AM
crockett crockett is offline
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Default Re: QQ hand and AQo hand

I think these are both great hands!

1. I follow your line until the turn. I don't 3 bet but just call down from here out. I don't think I fold either. Pot is just too big. MP2 hits his OESD and takes down CO's JJ making your fold the correct decision in hindsight (just my guess on the outcome).

2. I'd be awful tempted to bet that turn and probably would. After that K fell I would definately raise the river. I think more times than not they do not have the As. Heads up I definately raise the river.

Just my thoughts....any of the veterans want to let us know how these hands should be played?
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Old 08-17-2004, 02:10 PM
cartoonsoldier cartoonsoldier is offline
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Default Re: QQ hand and AQo hand

I raised the turn specfically because I put MP2 on a draw but I had a bad feeling that CO might have two-pair on the turn - Hand 1
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