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Old 08-06-2004, 12:32 PM
Guy McSucker Guy McSucker is offline
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Default Not-so-hidden outs. Turn play?

Quick question from a Party 3/6 hand. Don't have the history yet, bear with me.

I open-raise in EP with AQo. Folded to SB who calls. BB calls.

Flop: K K 7 rainbow.

SB bets out. BB folds. I raise (should I?) and he just calls.

Turn: offsuit T. SB checks.

Time to read his hand. He might have a K and be planning a check raise. He might have a 7 or a pocket pair under tens and be planning to call me down. He might have ace-high and be preparing to fold.

My options seem to be to check through here and call on the river regardless; or to bet and probably fold to a check-raise and fold on the river unimproved.

If I bet and he calls, I have lots of not-so-hidden outs: any A, Q, J or T I think.

So what's my line here and why can't I decide since I've pretty much done the homework above?

Guy.
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Old 08-06-2004, 12:40 PM
ZootMurph ZootMurph is offline
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Default Re: Not-so-hidden outs. Turn play?

I agree with the raise on the flop.

Further, I believe he has the 7 or a smaller pocket pair and will call you down. Bet the turn and hope to fold him. If he checkraises, he probably does have the King, and in the small pot you can consider folding the hand. If he just calls, you either have the best hand or he is planning on calling down with the 7 or smaller pocket pair. Check behind on the river unless you improve.

This is the line I would take.
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Old 08-06-2004, 12:42 PM
BassMan712 BassMan712 is offline
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Default Re: Not-so-hidden outs. Turn play?

I'd lean towards betting. By betting out the turn, you might be able to get your opponent to lay down better hands than yours (eg, a middle pair). By checking the turn, you opponent is much more likely to call a bet or bet out on the river.

Of course, if he raises your turn bet, let your hand go.

If he calls the turn bet, check behind on the river unless you catch any piece of the river card, then you bet out.
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Old 08-07-2004, 06:00 AM
Guy McSucker Guy McSucker is offline
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Default Re: Not-so-hidden outs. Turn play?

Thanks for the replies, chaps.

Results:

I bet the turn, foe called. River was a T. Final board: KK7TT. He checks, I bet my ace high, he calls with 66 (!?!?!?!) and I win.

Any further comments on the river bet, or the other streets? I think the river is automatic.

Guy.
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Old 08-07-2004, 06:58 AM
jt1 jt1 is offline
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Default Re: Not-so-hidden outs. Turn play?

river play is excellent. I'd have checked the turn and folded to a bet on river.
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