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Old 08-04-2004, 02:35 PM
Q8offsuit Q8offsuit is offline
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Default Tough situation with AK - thoughts?

pokerroom $0.25/$0.50. I am in the SB with AK.

Had some fairly good reads on the players. Seat 4 was a huge idiot (let's call him "moby-dick"). Seat 6 was semi-solid and weak tight (let's call him "small-fry") but moby had him on tilt after sucking out many times, the latest with J4o against small-fry's AK tptk. small-fry wanted to bust this guy so bad, I could smell it over the telephone line.

Texas Hold'em $0.25-$0.50 (real money)
Table Lae, 4 Aug 2004 2:02 PM ET

Seat 1: ($23.20 in chips)
Seat 2: ($5.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Q8offsuit ($239.30 in chips)
Seat 4: moby-dick ($14 in chips)
Seat 6: small-fry ($15.95 in chips)
Seat 7: ($29.70 in chips)
Seat 10: ($28.95 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
Q8offsuit posts blind ($0.10), moby-dick posts blind ($0.25).

PRE-FLOP
small-fry bets $0.50, 1 fold, unimportant bets $0.75, 2 folds, Q8offsuit bets $0.90, moby-dick calls $0.75, small-fry calls $0.50, unimportant calls $0.25.

FLOP [ 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ]
Q8offsuit bets $0.25, moby-dick calls $0.25, small-fry bets $0.50, unimportant calls $0.50, Q8offsuit bets $0.50, moby-dick calls $0.50, small-fry bets $0.50, unimportant calls $0.50, Q8offsuit calls $0.25, moby-dick calls $0.25.

TURN [ 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
Q8offsuit checks, moby-dick checks, small-fry bets $0.50, unimportant calls $0.50, Q8offsuit calls $0.50, moby-dick calls $0.50.

RIVER [ 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
Q8offsuit checks, moby-dick checks, small-fry bets $0.50, unimportant folds, Q8offsuit calls $0.50, moby-dick bets $1, small-fry bets $1, Q8offsuit calls $1, moby-dick bets $1, small-fry calls $0.50, Q8offsuit calls $0.50.

SHOWDOWN
moby-dick shows [ 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ]
small-fry shows [ A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
Q8offsuit mucks cards [ A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ]
small-fry wins $15.20.

SUMMARY
Pot: $16 | Rake: $0.80
Q8offsuit loses $4.50
moby-dick loses $4.50
small-fry bets $4.50, collects $15.20, net $10.70
unimportant loses $2.50

Damn- a 30+ BB pot and I put 9 of them in there.

Thoughts on all streets greatly appreciated, but especially:

1- should I have raised the turn? after two straight caps pre-flop and on the flop I was starting to worry about AA, TT, 99, or ATs from small-fry.

2- fold to 2 cold on the river? I just couldn't do it considering the pot size and the fact that I knew moby-dick probably had nothing.

3- 3-betting AK preflop out of the SB at these limits?

Could I have lost less money on this hand?
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Old 08-04-2004, 02:39 PM
Peter Harris Peter Harris is offline
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Default Re: Tough situation with AK - thoughts?

raise raise raise PF against a nutter and a tilter,
cap the flop
lead and reraise the turn
and sweat about the river but see it anyway (don't be the one raising)

at least that's what i'd do!

Pete Harris
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Old 08-04-2004, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: Tough situation with AK - thoughts?

After getting my eyes uncrossed, I think I would be capping the flop.... dang small fry did that (after furhter review).

Ok then.... bet out on the turn, if a weak-tight player raises you there, then I'm scared and may fold. A weak-tight player raises UTG and caps the flop. I think you're toast. ATs, TT, AA (maybe not, since not capped pf), 99?. You may have AQ beat. You would have KK beat, but weak-tight won't cap flop on that and would probably cap pf.

I don't see many hands that you have beat on the turn (now this may just be weak-tight advice on how to play a weak-tight player), but I've lost enough money to them. This pot is huge, so my first tendency is to call down.

So, I summary, I think you played well.
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Old 08-04-2004, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: Tough situation with AK - thoughts?

[ QUOTE ]
raise raise raise PF against a nutter and a tilter,
cap the flop
lead and reraise the turn
and sweat about the river but see it anyway (don't be the one raising)

at least that's what i'd do!

Pete Harris

[/ QUOTE ]

LOL

It's hard to see, but he did raise raise raise pf (last raise in). And the flop was capped before back to him. (or, at least, I think that's how it went down).

He didn't, however, lead the turn.
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