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Old 08-03-2004, 11:19 PM
hectorjelly hectorjelly is offline
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Default Terrible hand out of position (not AQ)

This is an odd hand, I dont really need any advice preflop, (youll see why in a minute), but would love to know how others play the turn and the river.

First the background:

Ive been at this table for a while and it is sllllow. No preflop raises being called, and a bet on the flop taking the hand down. I hate playing in games like this so I decide to try and loosen the table up a bit. I raise utg with J2. All fold to the Small Blind who goes all in for another 10$. I didnt realise he was so short stacked. I called and won. Anyway that raised one or two comments. Next orbit I get AKs utg & raise again. One caller and one reraiser who is only left with about 80$. I put him all in and win unimproved AK vs AQ.

Full table (9 handed), 2 4$ Blinds, and Im utg with 27s.
I have around 600$, villain has $500, other stacks arent important.

I raise to 20$ (standard raise). All fold to the villain two off the button who calls.

Flop is 10 7 3r. I think for a while and bet 38$. Sometimes with an overpair I'll bet here, sometimes check raise, so I think this is ok. He calls.

2 to the turn, $122 in the pot.

next card is a 4, of my suit.

I check (as I want to see the river but dont want to face a reraise).

He bets $50.

At this point Im pretty sure he has an over pair, QQ or JJ most likely, KK or AA are possibilites, but it doesnt make any difererence so I didnt worry too much about it. If he had AK here I think he would take the free card. If he had a set he would check.

I was planning not to call a pot sized reraise, but 50 seemed about right. Im pretty sure he'd call a medium bet if I hit my flush.

2 to the river, $222 in the pot.

River is a 7, giving me trips. I think for a second and raise $300. My thinking is, if he has a set hes getting my whole stack here, But Im pretty sure Ill get paid of by any overpair.In fact I think hell push here. I (obviously) want this to look like a missed flush desperation bluff.


All comments welcome!
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Old 08-04-2004, 02:52 AM
gomberg gomberg is offline
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Default Re: Terrible hand out of position (not AQ)

I think you already did enough advertising, so I'd never make this play UTG, there's just too much of a chance of a hand behind you, especially since they've seen you do it already w/ garbage, you should wait for a good hand.

That being said, a bet or CR on the flop is mandatory, and I like the check call w/ the flush draw / pair, and I like the bet on the river as it's very deceptive, especially given your image. Unless he has TT, you're gold...
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Old 08-04-2004, 05:01 AM
Matt Flynn Matt Flynn is offline
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Default Re: Terrible hand out of position (not AQ)

preflop - i put you on miller lite.

flop - fine.

turn - player- and situation-dependent whether to lead or check.

river - i like leading big here against weak players. that's because they pay you off. it's not because they put you on a busted flush draw that you picked up on the turn. it's because they call way too much. the big bet gives him the opportunity to make his usual big mistake.
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Old 08-04-2004, 02:07 PM
NUReedy NUReedy is offline
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Default Re: Terrible hand out of position (not AQ)

"preflop - i put you on miller lite."

I am not entirely sure about this one. This play looks more like a 3 Horseman (shot of Jose, Jack, and Jim) to me.
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