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Old 08-01-2004, 04:19 PM
jtnt1096 jtnt1096 is offline
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Default Cloutiers PL/NL Book

I have heard good and bad about this book. Can someone give me the low down on the good/bad and why they recommend it or not?

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Old 08-01-2004, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: Cloutiers PL/NL Book

Cloutier is one of the greatest players of all time. There may be better books out there, by why would you not read it? No one can say they read it and didn't learn or get better at something. Any time one of the best poker players in the world wants to offer me advice I'll look it over/hear it out. Certainly if it only costs <$30.
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Old 08-01-2004, 11:53 PM
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Default Re: Cloutiers PL/NL Book

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Cloutier is one of the greatest players of all time. There may be better books out there, by why would you not read it? No one can say they read it and didn't learn or get better at something. Any time one of the best poker players in the world wants to offer me advice I'll look it over/hear it out. Certainly if it only costs <$30.

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I read it and didn't get better from, way too weak tight. It just isn't a good book, plain and simple. BTW, TJ is one of my favorite players of all time.
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Old 08-02-2004, 01:04 AM
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Default Re: Cloutiers PL/NL Book

You can seriously tell me you learned nothing? Not even one little thing that may someday win or save you a couple bets? If you didn't, no problem. I'm just realy that curious.
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Old 08-02-2004, 01:54 AM
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You can seriously tell me you learned nothing? Not even one little thing that may someday win or save you a couple bets? If you didn't, no problem. I'm just realy that curious.

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Honestly, I learned nothing I didn't know. In fact, if I followed the advice (in general) in that book I'd be a worse player not better. Again, nothing against TJ, it's just a sad book.
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Cloutiers PL/NL Book

Thanks for the heads up. I already purchased the book but haven't yet begun reading it. I guess I know what to expect. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-02-2004, 07:38 AM
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Default Re: Cloutiers PL/NL Book

You made this statement...

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Cloutier is one of the greatest players of all time. There may be better books out there, by why would you not read it? No one can say they read it and didn't learn or get better at something.

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...before you even read the book?
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Old 08-02-2004, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: Cloutiers PL/NL Book

It is a good book, but just how it will apply to your game is the question. This is book was really written about big tournaments with giant starting stacks.

The typical touranment, I don't know of you could fold AA on a flop of KQ3.
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Old 08-02-2004, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: Cloutiers PL/NL Book

I have read others and am familiar with his career. He's written/co-written more than one book, you know. I have more than enough information to make that statement.
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Old 08-02-2004, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: Cloutiers PL/NL Book

i wouldnt recommend it - i got it and it instantly made me a folding station
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