Ed Miller is ruining my preflop statistics

Abe · #1 07-27-2004, 09:59 PM

I have always played very tight preflop. Could never sustain the "Malmuthian" 15% rate, but for long periods I was averaging 18%.

Am trying to play the advice in SSH and now am seeing KJo, Q8s, 22 etc. YIKES! I'm at 25% for the last week.

Will be trying the SSH advice in live games in Tunica for the next week. At least I won't get to hit the "See Your Statistics" button to see the %

BradleyT · #2 07-27-2004, 10:21 PM

They thought I was kidding

1p0kerb0y · #3 07-27-2004, 10:22 PM

Please note that your preflop percentage rate should be a little different depending on the type of table you are at!

I.E. Ed's book concentrates on loose games, while Mason probably plays a lot of tough/typical games being they are at a significantly higher level.

driller · #4 07-28-2004, 02:07 AM

I always thought that VP$IP was an accurate judge of a players "quality" as well as tightness. The top 3 winners in my poker tracker database are all over 30% and over 500 hands. This is at pp 15-30.

Tosh · #5 07-28-2004, 02:34 AM

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The top 3 winners in my poker tracker database are all over 30% and over 500 hands. This is at pp 15-30.

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There's your reason why.

TwoNiner · #6 07-28-2004, 04:01 AM

the winning players are getting better hands to start with and the better hands win more.

driller · #7 08-16-2004, 09:22 PM

Sorry for the late reply. Maybe these guys are better POST flop than average.

CollegePlayer · #8 08-17-2004, 12:41 PM

I was always floating at 18.5-19%, i havent read millers book yet, and i dont really plan to, but you have peaked my interest...

CollegePlayer · #9 08-17-2004, 12:42 PM

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Sorry for the late reply. Maybe these guys are better POST flop than average.

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maybe you need 40,000 hands to make an analysis, goofball....

DrSavage · #10 08-17-2004, 12:49 PM

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I always thought that VP$IP was an accurate judge of a players "quality" as well as tightness. The top 3 winners in my poker tracker database are all over 30% and over 500 hands. This is at pp 15-30.

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That doesn't make them winning players. It's fairly common to have several top winners in your DB have high VPIP. Because you have probably a couple of thousands of such players in your DB and they all play a lot of hands statistically a few of them would come out as big winners but the rest as even bigger losers. A very loose player who got lucky will be much higher on your list than a best player in the world who's playing tight. I suggest you take a look at the bottom of your database too and see that huge losers have the same stats as the big "winners".