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Old 07-15-2004, 09:06 AM
DeeJ DeeJ is offline
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Default Horrible KK hand

3/6 - 6 handed - I'm in SB with K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] .

The loose passive terrible player is UTG, plays pretty much anything and takes it too far.

Preflop, UTG calls, fold, fold, fold, Hero (SB) raises, BB folds, UTG calls.

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Ugh.

Hero bets, UTG calls.

Turn: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Hero bets, UTG calls.

River: 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Hero bets, UTG calls.

Showdown, he has A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I lose. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

I'm sure I played this badly, with hindsight should have c-r the flop. Whether or not this is the +EV play normally I'm keen to hear. Terrible player will only call a c-r even if he has a Queen, probably.

Anyone get away from this anywhere or play differently? Is anyone check-raising the flop? Or the turn? Still calling if then bet into? He would have bet out with a 9 or a Q or an Ace.
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Old 07-15-2004, 09:18 AM
Illininate Illininate is offline
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Default Re: Horrible KK hand

Against the player you describe, a check/raise is out of the question. You said it yourself: a passive player will only bet a Q here.

For the rest of the hand, you played it fine.
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Old 07-15-2004, 01:50 PM
thirddan thirddan is offline
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Default Re: Horrible KK hand

i play it the same...

you will win this hand far more times that you lose it against a player like the one you described...
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