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07-09-2004, 08:21 AM
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Is this just variance or is there a huge difference from 1/2 to 2/4?
Ok, mostly I'm just looking for someone to tell me it will be OK, but after a successful run at Party 1/2 and sufficient BR, I moved up to 2/4. My first two 2/3 sessions:
192 Hands - 8% Won - 42% SDW - 30% FS - 27% WWFS - -39.5 BB 248 Hands - 3% Won - 42% SDW - 21% FS - 15% WWFS - -74.63 BB In session 2, I went 101 hands without a win. AA got beat by 93o, KK got beat twice, and QQ went down to a river A. The bad beats I can expect and accept, but am I just not ready for 2/4 or is this just one of those things that seems worse than it is because the amounts are twice what I'm used to? I don't want to chicken out after two bad sessions, but it seems like a trip back to 1/2 may do my confidence and BR some good. I averaged 3.5 BB / 100 at 1/2 so I'm not sure that I am going to get any better playing there. Suggestions? 
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#2
07-09-2004, 08:38 AM
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Re: Is this just variance or is there a huge difference from 1/2 to 2/4?
How many hands in that 1/2 WR?
115BB is a chitload, but without hand histories who knows? There IS a pretty big difference in play, FWIW. However, if you think the probability of AA getting cracked by a calling station has anything to do with the betting limit or your skills, maybe a move down is wise...
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#3
07-09-2004, 09:14 AM
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Re: Is this just variance or is there a huge difference from 1/2 to 2/4?
A 114 BB downswing is big, but we've all had them before. It just sucks that it came as soon as you moved up.
If you were good enough to beat 1/2 consistently, then you ARE good enough to beat 2/4. There just isn't hardly any skill difference at all between the two levels. So, you need to figure out if you were actually a winner at 1/2. How many hands did you play at 1/2? You say you averaged 3.5BB/100. If if you've played 20k hands, you're a winner, and this is probably just a downswing. If you've only played 5k hands or so, you might not be a winner at all. The bottom line is, if you're uncomfortable losing that many BB at 2/4, a move back to 1/2 sounds like a great idea.
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#4
07-09-2004, 09:14 AM
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Re: Is this just variance or is there a huge difference from 1/2 to 2/
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How many hands in that 1/2 WR? 115BB is a chitload, but without hand histories who knows? There IS a pretty big difference in play, FWIW. However, if you think the probability of AA getting cracked by a calling station has anything to do with the betting limit or your skills, maybe a move down is wise... [/ QUOTE ] I think the relevant question is, given the action, could he have *noticed* that his AA was obviously beat and not lost as much money -- making these kinds of decisions are definitely what's hardest for me as a beginner. I.e., I know I'll get rivered sometimes, it's part of the game. But every time it happens to me I try to review my play and figured out if I just played the flop/turn wrong and could have prevented it (or gotten out), and these are definitely areas where I need expert advice. But that kind of judgement is obviously impossible to make without a hand history.
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07-09-2004, 09:16 AM
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Re: Is this just variance or is there a huge difference from 1/2 to 2/4?
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How many hands in that 1/2 WR? [/ QUOTE ] Just under 9100.
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#6
07-09-2004, 09:32 AM
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Re: Is this just variance or is there a huge difference from 1/2 to 2/4?
I've noticed more difference from 1/2 - 2/4 than any other limits.
Not much you can do about those 3% days. I can usually eek out a small win/loss at 7-8% win rate. 40BB is a big loss. I'd guess you are chasing the wrong pots. You can play both games. You don't have to jump right into the 2/4 exclusively. You'll figure it out soon enough.
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