Can i fold ??? 5/10 AA

pleyya · #1 11-28-2005, 03:05 PM

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

BB is 40/4/.65 big enough sample
SB is laggy but not crazy

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 3 folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, BB calls, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB raises, Hero ...

I feel like i am beat here, but can i fold ??? Im getting 10:1 on calling. Im quite sure BB has trips, a full house or a straight. If he has a straight i have 4 outs. I guess he could have AA or KK aswell.

#2 11-28-2005, 03:12 PM

I think that you can fold, but I am really bad at poker.

tinhat · #3 11-28-2005, 03:13 PM

I don't play 5/10 but w/bb's passive-ish agg/looseness and waiting for flop raiser to bet again, I'm dumping...

Mike

gharp · #4 11-28-2005, 03:22 PM

Tough hand. I think you should fold this but it's a fold I have a really hard time making.

If I've been making a lot of continuation bets and winning a lot of pots without showdowns, I think a call down might be in order (BB could think his top pair is good). But, most often, he'll show you a 9 or a straight and you should just get away from it before he does.

#5 11-28-2005, 03:46 PM

Im going to assume villain doesnt have QQ because of the preflop action. You cant fold getting 10:1. Thats enough to draw to your full house. The river is more interesting imo.

SparkyDog · #6 11-28-2005, 03:53 PM

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You cant fold getting 10:1. Thats enough to draw to your full house. The river is more interesting imo.

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Huh?

If Hero calls the turn he shouldn't fold the river. Making the river the least interesting street.

#7 11-28-2005, 03:54 PM

I think it's a fold here, since BB has very low aggro. It's very likely has an 9, 88(turned fullhouse) or JT. However, what I am really interested in is it is better to check the turn?

DMBFan23 · #8 11-28-2005, 03:57 PM

I probably would have called the flop the first time around

tinhat · #9 11-28-2005, 04:08 PM

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Thats enough to draw to your full house.

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At best hero only has 4 outs (and 1 could be improving bb to quads); so maybe even only 2 outs.

I think bb called flop w/made hand so he could be bet into on turn (because that's what I'd do). But regardless, the outs aren't there for such a super thin call...

Mike

edit: I should have added that for me, bb's stats ("big enough sample") are the compelling factor here; I'd likely feel totally different in another situation.

pleyya · #10 11-28-2005, 04:25 PM

Turn: (6 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB raises, Hero folds, SB calls.

River: (11 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: 11 BB

SB shows [ Qc, Js ] a full house, Nines full of queens.
BB doesn't show [ Jd, Th ] a straight, eight to queen.
SB wins $107 from the main pot with a full house, Nines full of queens.

Guess this is why im secondguessing my fold..........