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pleyya 11-28-2005 03:05 PM

Can i fold ??? 5/10 AA
 
Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

BB is 40/4/.65 big enough sample
SB is laggy but not crazy

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero ...

I feel like i am beat here, but can i fold ??? Im getting 10:1 on calling. Im quite sure BB has trips, a full house or a straight. If he has a straight i have 4 outs. I guess he could have AA or KK aswell.

11-28-2005 03:12 PM

Re: Can i fold ??? 5/10 AA
 
I think that you can fold, but I am really bad at poker.

tinhat 11-28-2005 03:13 PM

Re: Can i fold ??? 5/10 AA
 
I don't play 5/10 but w/bb's passive-ish agg/looseness and waiting for flop raiser to bet again, I'm dumping...

Mike

gharp 11-28-2005 03:22 PM

Re: Can i fold ??? 5/10 AA
 
Tough hand. I think you should fold this but it's a fold I have a really hard time making.

If I've been making a lot of continuation bets and winning a lot of pots without showdowns, I think a call down might be in order (BB could think his top pair is good). But, most often, he'll show you a 9 or a straight and you should just get away from it before he does.

11-28-2005 03:46 PM

Re: Can i fold ??? 5/10 AA
 
Im going to assume villain doesnt have QQ because of the preflop action. You cant fold getting 10:1. Thats enough to draw to your full house. The river is more interesting imo.

SparkyDog 11-28-2005 03:53 PM

Re: Can i fold ??? 5/10 AA
 
[ QUOTE ]
You cant fold getting 10:1. Thats enough to draw to your full house. The river is more interesting imo.

[/ QUOTE ]

Huh?

If Hero calls the turn he shouldn't fold the river. Making the river the least interesting street.

11-28-2005 03:54 PM

Re: Can i fold ??? 5/10 AA
 
I think it's a fold here, since BB has very low aggro. It's very likely has an 9, 88(turned fullhouse) or JT. However, what I am really interested in is it is better to check the turn?

DMBFan23 11-28-2005 03:57 PM

Re: Can i fold ??? 5/10 AA
 
I probably would have called the flop the first time around

tinhat 11-28-2005 04:08 PM

Re: Can i fold ??? 5/10 AA
 
[ QUOTE ]
Thats enough to draw to your full house.

[/ QUOTE ]
At best hero only has 4 outs (and 1 could be improving bb to quads); so maybe even only 2 outs.

I think bb called flop w/made hand so he could be bet into on turn (because that's what I'd do). But regardless, the outs aren't there for such a super thin call...

Mike

edit: I should have added that for me, bb's stats ("big enough sample") are the compelling factor here; I'd likely feel totally different in another situation.

pleyya 11-28-2005 04:25 PM

Turn and River
 
Turn: (6 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero folds, SB calls.

River: (11 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: 11 BB

SB shows [ Qc, Js ] a full house, Nines full of queens.
BB doesn't show [ Jd, Th ] a straight, eight to queen.
SB wins $107 from the main pot with a full house, Nines full of queens.

Guess this is why im secondguessing my fold..........


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