Q-Js or 8-8

[eugeneel123]

[Nate tha' Great]

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I think the better you are as a player, and the more reads you have on the players against you, the more likely you are to feel better about the JQs as you can get away from the hand much easier and know where you are at.

It takes very little skill to play the 88 postflop.

Naturally I lean towards the JQs

-Eugene

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Precise hands reads tend to be inversely proportional to pot size.

[DcifrThs]

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I think the better you are as a player, and the more reads you have on the players against you, the more likely you are to feel better about the JQs as you can get away from the hand much easier and know where you are at.

It takes very little skill to play the 88 postflop.

Naturally I lean towards the JQs

-Eugene

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Precise hands reads tend to be inversely proportional to pot size.

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i was about to write a likely long boring post about this exact concept. then i said, "wait a tic, barron...just see what nate posted first, he might have had the same idea and it'll save you from time."

well said.

-Barron

[snakehead]

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snakehead was on the button when he capped with Q-Js

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I was the big blind. I might not have played it if I didn't already have money in the pot.

[astroglide]

you do not have odds to get away from anything drawing in a pot like this

[elysium]

andy hi

understand now i, aye.

[imported_stealthcow]

the better my opponents are, the more likely i want 88

but the smaller the stakes/worse the opponents the more i would want QJs.

by position i'd take 88 over QJs in almost every position except for the last few

stealthcow-

[fearme]

88!!!!!!, i dont want to be dominated, i think qjs u flop too many trap hands

[skp]

Why is everyone just looking at a half empty glass and not a half full glass?

Yes, QJs may see you be dominated and paying off postflop but the pot is not a dinky little one. There is a big reward for sucking out and you will suck out more often with QJs than with 88. Given pot size, being dominated is not so bad as being in the chase with a reasonable number of outs is good.

88 will hit big at times on the flop while QJs is less likely to do so. That makes 88 better but not that much better.

Am I just out to lunch here?

What the hell are Andy's and Snakehead's views anyway since they started this thing?

[Rex Bluett]

I'm not calling 3 cold but if I get caught up in it I like 88
a. Because its easier to play later
b. because no one else surely has the cards i'd most like to see