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Old 08-10-2005, 12:08 PM
Jeff W Jeff W is offline
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Default J9 in the SB. AA98 board.

Button is very loose. No telling what he'd call with here. The other two players are reasonable.

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Preflop: Jeff is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, Jeff completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Jeff bets</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Jeff checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Button calls, Jeff folds.
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:11 PM
BWebb BWebb is offline
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Default Re: J9 in the SB. AA98 board.

With three callers on the flop, I like the check/fold. Small stakes players love to play an ace and slowplay any chance they get. Plus, with the straight and flush draws, plus overs to your pair, your hand is vunerable. Pot is small, nice fold.
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: J9 in the SB. AA98 board.

I'd rather bet fold.

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Old 08-10-2005, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: J9 in the SB. AA98 board.

why the flop bet with a turn check? bet the flop, bet the turn.
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:20 PM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: J9 in the SB. AA98 board.

This hand is perfectly played.

I've found one area of resent growth in my game comes in realizing when calls clearly demonstrate that my hand is no good.

Against a single call, bet-folding the turn might be correct. But it is simply way too unlikely that between three callers on this board one of them doesn't at least have an A, a better 9, or a pair like TT (with the probability someone has an A being like 80% or better).

Small stakes players will often never raise an A here, and so calls on a board like this are very scary. Three players can't all have flush draws.
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:33 PM
Jeff W Jeff W is offline
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Default Re: J9 in the SB. AA98 board.

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Small stakes players will often never raise an A here, and so calls on a board like this are very scary. Three players can't all have flush draws.

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Well, it's a mid-limit hand, but otherwise I concur.
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Old 08-10-2005, 01:58 PM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: J9 in the SB. AA98 board.

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Many poker players at all levels will often never raise an A here, and so calls on a board like this are very scary. Three players can't all have flush draws.

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Well, it's a mid-limit hand, but otherwise I concur.

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Fixed my post for clarity.
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:22 PM
J. Sawyer J. Sawyer is offline
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Default Re: J9 in the SB. AA98 board.

I agree
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: J9 in the SB. AA98 board.

I was going to say bet the turn, but I read some of the responses. Its true all 3 of them can't have an Ace often enough to make betting here profitable. Right?
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Old 08-10-2005, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: J9 in the SB. AA98 board.

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Its true all 3 of them can't have an Ace often enough to make betting here profitable.

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Your statement is confusing.
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