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Old 03-08-2005, 09:07 PM
VayaConDios VayaConDios is offline
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Default Why A-K sucks

Paradise Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) converter

BB ($9.29)
UTG ($21.65)
UTG+1 ($36.25)
Hero ($59.60)
MP2 ($6.05)
CO ($19.80)
Button ($33.95)
SB ($25.15)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls $1.75.

Flop: ($4.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($4.10) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, BB calls $3.

River: ($12.10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, BB calls $1.29.

Final Pot: $19.39

Results:
<font color="#000000">
BB has 2h Tc (two pair, tens and twos).
Hero has Kd As (one pair, kings).
Outcome: BB wins $19.39. </font>

For those of you who are wondering whether it is correct to raise a drawing hand like A-K preflop, mine is a cautionary tale: there go you but for the grace of god!
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Old 03-08-2005, 09:10 PM
magicmntn magicmntn is offline
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Default Re: Why A-K sucks

what was the logic in not betting the flop?
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Old 03-08-2005, 09:13 PM
kongo_totte kongo_totte is offline
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Default Why checking TPTK on flop sucks!

That's why.
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Old 03-09-2005, 01:18 AM
nrinker nrinker is offline
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Default Re: Why checking TPTK on flop sucks!

hahah, I dont get it.... you raise pf (great), you hit your top pair on the flop and you wuss out?
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Old 03-09-2005, 02:10 AM
joewatch joewatch is offline
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Default Re: Why A-K sucks

I don't think there is anything wrong with your play. Unfortunately, you ran into a very calling station.
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Old 03-09-2005, 02:17 AM
PoBoy321 PoBoy321 is offline
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Default Re: Why A-K sucks

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For those of you who are wondering whether it is correct to raise a drawing hand like A-K preflop, mine is a cautionary tale: there go you but for the grace of god!

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You are an idiot. Do you see why? I'll let others elaborate.

EDIT: OK, I'll elaborate. Checking behind on the turn is idiotic. You hit your "drawing hand" and hit, so you check behind and give the guy a free chance to outdraw you. The turn raise looks good, but because of your flop check, i can't blame him for calling. On the river, you got outdrawn, sucks for you, but you did not play this hand well.
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Old 03-09-2005, 04:59 AM
Komodo Komodo is offline
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Default Re: Why checking TPTK on flop sucks!

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That's why.

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Agree. Checking top pair after the flop is very risky and rarely recommended. I dont like villains play either.Think he should have reraised much more.
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Old 03-09-2005, 05:05 AM
mudbuddha mudbuddha is offline
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Default Re: Why A-K sucks

bet your hand buddy, (secret to not gettin rivered)
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Old 03-09-2005, 05:15 AM
mztaim mztaim is offline
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Default Re: Why A-K sucks

One thing no one has mentioned is that by checking the flop, you make your opponent believe the ten might be good. THAT IS WHY HE STAYED IN THE HAND. Bet the flop. Secondly, if you want to think of AK as a "drawing" hand fine. AK is a one pair hand. One pair hands don't want a lot of opponents. That is why you raise preflop to limit the field.
My two cents.
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Old 03-09-2005, 06:14 AM
daveymck daveymck is offline
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Default Re: Why A-K sucks

Noone has commented that the guy was shortstacked.

As I see two ways to play the hand bet the flop show you hand and probably take a small pot, or check it give the small stack hope his trash is good and take his small stack from him.

On this if you check the flop I think you have to raise him all in on the turn, if he calls your turn bet he aint folding on the river.
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