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#32
07-19-2005, 05:43 PM
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Re: KK....will you or won\'t you?
Raise the flop and no way fold on it.
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#33
07-19-2005, 06:08 PM
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Re: KK....will you or won\'t you?
This is not a marginal situation... if there was an Ace on board it was. If you always assume they have the hand that beat yours, there is no way you can play good poker.
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#34
07-19-2005, 07:16 PM
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Re: KK....will you or won\'t you?
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1) I thought I was drawing against either, JJ or AJs (spades) 2) based on this "read" I feel a fold was warrented. [/ QUOTE ] He can flip JJ face up and I'm still calling the flop [ QUOTE ] 3) I really am struggling sometimes with premium holdings in marginal situations [/ QUOTE ] This is not marginal. This is just bad poker.
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#35
07-19-2005, 07:22 PM
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Re: KK....will you or won\'t you?
Not raising on the flop and then not making a call where you were getting great odds makes Baby Jesus cry!
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#36
07-19-2005, 09:08 PM
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Re: KK....will you or won\'t you?
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No offense, but this is easily makes my Top 5 Weakest Folds of All Time. Make it 3 on the flop, and go from there. You have an overpair and a backdoor flush draw in a huge pot, folding is soooo bad [/ QUOTE ] I second that emotion.
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#37
07-19-2005, 09:48 PM
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Re: KK....will you or won\'t you?
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Hero folds. [/ QUOTE ] It cannot be stated enough... but you are the god damned devil.
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#38
07-19-2005, 09:52 PM
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Re: KK....will you or won\'t you?
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Not raising on the flop and then not making a call where you were getting great odds makes Baby Jesus cry! [/ QUOTE ] This is true, but I still think he should raise the flop. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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#39
07-19-2005, 10:13 PM
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Re: KK....will you or won\'t you?
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[ QUOTE ] 1) I thought I was drawing against either, JJ or AJs (spades) 2) based on this "read" I feel a fold was warrented. [/ QUOTE ] If I'm reading this correctly, you thought he had A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] after the J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] flopped. What sort of game is this? [/ QUOTE ] This must be where this guy uses his deck.
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#40
07-20-2005, 04:16 AM
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Re: KK....will you or won\'t you?
I think everyone has piled on enough to where you get the point that it was played poorly.
Your main fault was your "read" (and then your action based on that read was still incorrect), you can almost never put people on one specific hand early on. You must take what you know about the player, narrow his cards down to a range of hands, and compare your hands to that range. You are ahead of the likely range of hands villian(s) has. Thinking you are likely beat is a sign of a "Tight passive" player (also called "weak-tight"). To help you, I think you would get value from 3 books: A) Getting Started in Holdem by Ed Miller (specifically the limit section). I'd start at the beginning, Ed will give you a solid base on how to think about hands. He teaches smart aggression. B) Psychology of Poker by Alan Schoonmaker, the whole book is excellent, but I'd pay extra special attention to the traits of a "Tight Passive" player and his suggesstions on how to become a "Tight Aggressive Player" C) Small Stakes Holdem by Ed Miller, THE low limit holdem book, you will read and reread this book many times and it will make you a good player if you put in the effort. Another notable addition would be to get Pokertracker and study the stats it provides in order to see leaks in your game. And finally, read these forums every day. Read just the first post and no responses and try posting what you would do in the situation described. Then read other posts and see what you got right, and what you got wrong. Best of luck.
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