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Old 07-25-2005, 02:49 PM
thejameser thejameser is offline
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Default Re: it must be hot outside b/c i just coldcalled

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the preflop raiser earlier in the session raised J10o UTG, so he was a light raiser.

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So why not 3-bet and try to isolate?

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back from lunch. okay, so say i 3-bet PF. when checked to me do you say bet or check?
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Old 07-25-2005, 01:45 PM
W. Deranged W. Deranged is offline
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Default Re: it must be hot outside b/c i just coldcalled

Jameser,

I understand the cold-call is an aberration, so I don't want to drive it into the ground. In general, I would be careful about letting pre-flop (or later) decisions be dictated to strongly by reads on individual players. Just because the raiser may be light doesn't mean that others who enter the pot won't tend to have stronger hands; hence, your hand will still decline in value. Other considerations, such as the reduction in implied odds on the flush potential given the two SB price, really do not relate to the quality of raiser's hands at all.

As for the flop bet, I've been thinking and I can't come up with any good reason to do it. Unless you think that you are generating huge bluff equity with the bet somehow, the bet accomplishes very little. Getting a free river card is not that useful, either, because you don't even have many draws you want to see. Very often, your bet is simply playing into the hands of opponents who are slowplaying/waiting to check-raise. You probably benefit the most on a Fundamental Theorem basis by letting the flop check through.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:31 AM
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Default Re: it must be hot outside b/c i just coldcalled

I really don't like preflop or the flop.
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Old 07-25-2005, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: it must be hot outside b/c i just coldcalled

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I really don't like preflop or the flop.

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Old 07-25-2005, 11:46 AM
thejameser thejameser is offline
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Default Re: it must be hot outside b/c i just coldcalled

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I really don't like preflop or the flop.

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i found this hand in my histories and i was a little taken aback at my coldcall(my PT stat is .71 for calling cold). the flop bet is the one that gets me. i thought at worst, fold out weak/tighties and maybe a bigger A or K. i fold to any raise, and checked the turn to avoid a c/r. i think spiking the A deluded me a little as to how this hand was actually played. and the opponents were HORRIBLE.
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Old 07-25-2005, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: it must be hot outside b/c i just coldcalled

nope.
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