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Old 05-01-2005, 12:16 AM
Azhrarn Azhrarn is offline
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Default Another river fold

Looser than average table. SB is loose and passive and, as far as I can tell, very straightforward. CO is very loose and somewhat tricky.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, UTG folds, MP1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, CO calls.

I was surprised by the 3-bet, and I was pretty sure it meant top pair good kicker or better.

Turn: (10.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (13.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero folds, CO folds.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB

Bleh?
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:31 AM
GoblinMason (Craig) GoblinMason (Craig) is offline
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Default Re: Another river fold

I really don't like the river fold. You're definitely good often enough to call here and see TP worse kick or busted [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img][img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

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Old 05-01-2005, 12:33 AM
wrto4556 wrto4556 is offline
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Default Re: Another river fold

I doubt it's a busted flush draw from the read given. But it could very well be K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

I'd call.
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: Another river fold

It would be hard for him to have K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], lol.
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:36 AM
wrto4556 wrto4556 is offline
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Default Re: Another river fold

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It would be hard for him to have K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], lol.

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I've said it before, ill say it again. PP's fixed!

Fine Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:38 AM
GoblinMason (Craig) GoblinMason (Craig) is offline
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Default Re: Another river fold

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It would be hard for him to have K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], lol.

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I've said it before, ill say it again. PP's fixed!

Fine Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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I think that's equally as likely as k [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] j [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 05-01-2005, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: Another river fold

Unless he's a complete rock, I'm calling the river. At least 8% of the time you're hand has to be good. In fact, I might seriously consider raising the turn.
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Old 05-01-2005, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: Another river fold

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Unless he's a complete rock, I'm calling the river. At least 8% of the time you're hand has to be good. In fact, I might seriously consider raising the turn.

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Exactly.
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Old 05-01-2005, 02:04 AM
Azhrarn Azhrarn is offline
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Default Re: Another river fold

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In fact, I might seriously consider raising the turn.

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In retrospect, I really wish I had. I could have easily folded to a 3-bet, and it would have put extra pressure on the CO. I was so focused on the SB, I didn't pay much attention to the CO until the river, which was a mistake considering how many draws were on the board.
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Old 05-01-2005, 02:16 AM
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Default Re: Another river fold

Barry is right
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