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View Poll Results: Which is worst? | |||
Losing a sneeze | 38 | 42.22% | |
Losing a yawn | 7 | 7.78% | |
Bumping a red, not-yet-surfaced zit | 45 | 50.00% | |
Voters: 90. You may not vote on this poll |
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Poll: 55 on the button
You are playing 10/20 NL and a mainiacal player in MP makes it $70 to go with $1000 behind. It is folded to you on the button and you see 55.
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Re: Poll: 55 on the button
fold
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#3
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Re: Poll: 55 on the button
Why fold. You could flop a 5, bet out small and have him raise you his stack. If he was tight passive this would be a fold.
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Re: Poll: 55 on the button
Maniac - they raise wtih a wide range of hands so you don't necessarily know what this is. Eitherway, every street will most likely be expensive. The call is 7% of your stack, not great, no other callers, I don't really like it.
Recently, I think calling pairs heads up against maniacs has been costing me real money, calling against people that won't pay off has been costing me theoretical money. |
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Re: Poll: 55 on the button
It would be big -EV to fold here. Put in your $70 and see the flop. If he then makes an obvious overbet I would push
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Re: Poll: 55 on the button
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Recently, I think calling pairs heads up against maniacs has been costing me real money, calling against people that won't pay off has been costing me theoretical money. [/ QUOTE ] Excellent reasoning AZK. Me too, this is something I have had to learn the hard way. It is such a juicy looking situation when you can get heads up with a raising maniac and you have the ability to flop a set and break him, but this just puts too many iff's in the situation. What if you don't flop a five? Its gonna be tough to have 55 be overcards. What if you flop a 5 and there are three diamonds out there and it kills all action you would get? What if you flop a five with three diamonds and he pushes all-in? What if *gasp* you don't flop a 5? Then he just won a $200 pot by exploiting weak/passive play. If this was 10/20 no limit and you both had 10k in front of you, different ballgame. |
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Re: Poll: 55 on the button
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It would be big -EV to fold here. [/ QUOTE ] Folding is 0 EV. |
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Re: Poll: 55 on the button
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It would be big -EV to fold here. Put in your $70 and see the flop. If he then makes an obvious overbet I would push in this situation. [/ QUOTE ] Hero never put in any money into the pot so it would be impossible for the Hero to have a -EV. Hero MIGHT not be optimizing his EV, and that's what the question of discussion is right now. I'm not putting any money in after the flop unless a 5 flops so I’m not going to be calling the pre-flop raise unless this maniac is very maniacal. |
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Re: Poll: 55 on the button
I was just talking in general terms. Playing a hand like
this against a "Maniac" can be very profitable. Especially since if he flops a set it wont likely stop the Villian from trying to push him post flop |
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Re: Poll: 55 on the button
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Folding is 0 EV [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hero never put in any money into the pot so it would be impossible for the Hero to have a -EV. [/ QUOTE ] You're in the hand, and there's money in the pot. You have at least some equity, so it is certainly possible to have negative EV in this situation. |
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