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Old 04-27-2005, 02:42 AM
Azhrarn Azhrarn is offline
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Default Thoughts/postflop action

Thanks for all of the responses.

This hand surprised me a bit, because I'm usually pretty comfortable with pre-flop decisions, and I had no idea if a cap here was worthwhile. For what it's worth, I put CO on a JJ-AA, AK range, and I chickened out and called. Having read the responses, I probably should have gone ahead and capped. But what I lack in pre-flop agggression, I make up in flopping g00t:

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (19.40 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Button calls, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls.

Turn: (17.70 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 folds, CO calls, Button folds.

River: (19.70 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 21.70 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Js Jh (three of a kind, jacks).
CO has Ah Kc (one pair, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins 21.70 BB. </font>
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Old 04-27-2005, 03:04 AM
HajiShirazu HajiShirazu is offline
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Default Re: Pop a cap in their asses?

I definately think you should cap here. I tried to pick a "sensible" range of hands that people would cold call with when 6 people are seeing the flop (meaning they can't all have good hands.)
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1,915,943 games 62.830 secs 30,494 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 22.7359 % [ 00.22 00.01 ] { JJ }
Hand 2: 26.4673 % [ 00.26 00.01 ] { AA-TT, AKs-AQs, AKo }
Hand 3: 12.8215 % [ 00.12 00.01 ] { JJ-22, AKs-A2s, KQs-K5s, QJs-Q8s, JTs-J8s, T9s-T7s, 98s-97s, 87s-86s, 76s-75s, 65s-64s, 54s-53s, 43s, AKo-A8o, KQo-K9o, QJo-QTo, JTo }
Hand 4: 12.5125 % [ 00.12 00.01 ] { JJ-22, AKs-A2s, KQs-K6s, QJs-Q7s, JTs-J7s, T9s-T7s, 98s-96s, 87s-86s, 76s-75s, 65s-64s, 54s-53s, 43s, AKo-A8o, KQo-K8o, QJo-Q9o, JTo }
Hand 5: 12.8471 % [ 00.12 00.01 ] { TT-22, AKs-A2s, KQs-K5s, QJs-Q8s, JTs-J7s, T9s-T7s, 98s-97s, 87s-86s, 76s-75s, 65s-64s, 54s-53s, 43s, AKo-A8o, KQo-K9o, QJo-QTo, JTo }
Hand 6: 12.6156 % [ 00.12 00.01 ] { TT-22, AKs-A2s, KQs-K5s, QJs-Q8s, JTs-J8s, T9s-T7s, 98s-96s, 87s-86s, 76s-75s, 65s-64s, 54s-53s, 43s, AKo-A7o, KQo-K9o, QJo-Q9o, JTo }
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Old 04-27-2005, 05:03 AM
Catch of the Day Catch of the Day is offline
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Default Re: Pop a cap in their asses?

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The fact that there's 6 people in the pot makes this an easy cap.

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Old 04-27-2005, 05:46 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: Pop a cap in their asses?

I have read this entire thread and believe capping is more profitable than calling.
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Old 04-27-2005, 05:53 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: Pop a cap in their asses?

I like your simulation and think capping good.

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I tried to pick a "sensible" range of hands that people would cold call with when 6 people are seeing the flop (meaning they can't all have good hands.)

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I think this is a bit flawed though. You have put no one of them on reasonable coldcalling hands.
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