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Azhrarn 04-27-2005 12:07 AM

Pop a cap in their asses?
 
The table was loose for 5/10, but this level of action was unusual. CO seemed decent, although my read wasn't real strong. The others ranged from mediocre to fishy.

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls, Hero...

Cap it or call? If you say cap, would you do it with tens? If you say call, would you cap with queens?

Harv72b 04-27-2005 12:09 AM

Re: Pop a cap in their asses?
 
Hero calls. I don't like capping with JJ out of position.

wrto4556 04-27-2005 12:10 AM

Re: Pop a cap in their asses?
 
We have a ton of equity.

New001 04-27-2005 12:12 AM

Re: Pop a cap in their asses?
 
If you just call, what do you do when an overcard flops?

I'll cap this almost every time, and I'll do it with TT too, unless I'm feeling tricky enough to check/raise a low flop.

Harv72b 04-27-2005 12:12 AM

Re: Pop a cap in their asses?
 
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We have a ton of equity.

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Maybe. A lot of potential overcards/underpairs out there, and it's very possible that CO is holding a higher PP (especially if he 3-bet behind such a large field).

Harv72b 04-27-2005 12:14 AM

Re: Pop a cap in their asses?
 
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If you just call, what do you do when an overcard flops?

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The same thing you do if you cap and an overcard flops--reassess your hand. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

wrto4556 04-27-2005 12:14 AM

Re: Pop a cap in their asses?
 
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We have a ton of equity.

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Maybe. A lot of potential overcards/underpairs out there, and it's very possible that CO is holding a higher PP (especially if he 3-bet behind such a large field).

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That's OK. There is a bunch of people padding the pot for us.

New001 04-27-2005 12:16 AM

Re: Pop a cap in their asses?
 
But you're OOP. Do you check/call a bet from him? He's autobetting almost every flop if he 3-bet, and you have no idea where you are. If you cap and lead into him, he'll let you know whether or not you're ahead.

private joker 04-27-2005 12:17 AM

Re: Pop a cap in their asses?
 
The fact that there's 6 people in the pot makes this an easy cap.

Harv72b 04-27-2005 12:22 AM

Re: Pop a cap in their asses?
 
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The fact that there's 6 people in the pot makes this an easy cap.

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This is where you're losing me. Even if you assume that the cold-callers are all just donks playing the usual cold-calling crap, do you really have an equity advantage with JJ here, given the likelihood that CO is holding an overpair? You'd be a 4:1 dog HU, and when you factor in all the straight/flush/overpair/two pair/trip combinations that you could be up against, I find it difficult to believe that JJ holds a 16.7% pot equity in this scenario.


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