Over-Tricky SDM

[sexdrugsmoney]

I make the raise on 5th to push out a possible better straight. I know seat 3 probably has trip 7's and is going for a boat, but it's unlikely he's got another Q buried, and my straight with an option to a flush will hold up if he doesn't improve.

This may be flawed logic though, maybe as soon as anyone pairs their door card you should fold a made straight ... I don't know, rate my play please.

Cheers. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

================================================== =

7 Card Stud High ($2/$4), Ante $0.25, Bring-In $1 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (0.75 SB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds

4th Street - (3.25 SB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 4: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___folds

5th Street - (3.63 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___raises
Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___bets___calls
Seat 4: xx xx 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds

6th Street - (9.63 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___raises___calls
Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls___calls
Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]___bets___raises

River - (18.63 BB)

Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 2: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] xx___folds
Seat 3: xx xx 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] xx___bets

Total pot: (20.63 BB)

Results:
Main Pot: $79.50 | Rake: $3

Hero: [ Ad 4d 5d 3h 2d Th 6s ] [ a straight, two to six -- 6s,5d,4d,3h,2d ]

Seat 3: [ 8d 8c 7d Qh 7s 8h 6c ] [ a full house, Eights full of sevens -- 8d,8c,8h,7d,7s ]

[Roland]

How is this tricky? It’s a simple value raise. A better straight isn’t folding on 5th, but he won’t have it very often.

As for 6th street, I sometimes lay down here, but that just depends on the opponent. Sometimes you have to just lose a hand.

[sexdrugsmoney]

[ QUOTE ]
How is this tricky? It’s a simple value raise. A better straight isn’t folding on 5th, but he won’t have it very often.

As for 6th street, I sometimes lay down here, but that just depends on the opponent. Sometimes you have to just lose a hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

Cheers Roland, I thought it was overticky to try to force a larger straight out if I have a wheel. (I remember the situation of Marcel Luske v Nick Frangos in the 2004 Stud event where Frangos had a wheel but Marcel had a larger straight)

[BeerMoney]

[ QUOTE ]

As for 6th street, I sometimes lay down here,

[/ QUOTE ]

Stop making huge folds.

SDM, have you posted every hand from your session?

[Roland]

[ QUOTE ]
Cheers Roland, I thought it was overticky to try to force a larger straight out if I have a wheel.

[/ QUOTE ]

You aren’t trying to force out a higher straight. Why would a higher straight fold here? With 3 diamonds on board, the situation would be different, but here, no.
You are raising for value, pure and simple.

[beta1607]

[ QUOTE ]


Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


As for 6th street, I sometimes lay down here,


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Stop making huge folds.

[/ QUOTE ]

Agreed, folding this hand would be a pretty big mistake I think, especially with your diamond draw...I think you are much more likely to be up against a flush or trips the a boat. Sometimes you have to payoff.

[Roland]

[ QUOTE ]

Agreed, folding this hand would be a pretty big mistake I think, especially with your diamond draw...I think you are much more likely to be up against a flush or trips the a boat. Sometimes you have to payoff.

[/ QUOTE ]

Huh? How can this be a flush? And why would he just call on 5th but then suddenly 3-bet on 6th with just trip 7s?
This is 8s full or 7s full way over 90% of the time imo.

And I’ll make as many tough folds as I see fit, thanks. I have no problem with SDM paying off here, though.

[beta1607]

Sorry I misread the hand. Disregard the part about a flush. I am still paying off here.

[Roland]

[ QUOTE ]
Sorry I misread the hand. Disregard the part about a flush. I am still paying off here.

[/ QUOTE ]

Now if the 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] were live…
[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[sexdrugsmoney]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

As for 6th street, I sometimes lay down here,

[/ QUOTE ]

Stop making huge folds.

SDM, have you posted every hand from your session?

[/ QUOTE ]

No, there's more but you get the best. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]