Mercy call with sedond pair?

hemstock · #1 09-06-2005, 01:31 PM

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls, 4 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB folds, BB calls, Hero?

I'm getting 11.5 on a call.
Should I call or fold? Or shouldn't I bet the flop and the turn in the first place?

Aaron W. · #2 09-06-2005, 01:35 PM

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PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls, 4 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB folds, BB calls, Hero?

I'm getting 11.5 on a call.
Should I call or fold? Or shouldn't I bet the flop and the turn in the first place?

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With half the field left behind you, don't bet the flop. When you get called by 5 players, don't bet the turn.

I think you need to turn down the postflop aggression level a notch.

Hojglad · #3 09-06-2005, 01:35 PM

Call. So many people bet when checked to with total air that it's ridiculous. I agree with Aaron's sentiments here - you need to be checkraising this flop, not betting into a field of 8.4 billion.

adsman · #4 09-06-2005, 01:36 PM

Raise preflop. Seriously. Then the hand might play a little different.

Pylos · #5 09-06-2005, 01:36 PM

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Or shouldn't I bet the flop and the turn in the first place?

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Reads are important on hands like this. Personally, I like to c/r in this position as to eliminate some loose callers, but in your position I'm not sure anyone would fall off the horse anyway.

What's the story with CO? Does he play junk?

Raise this preflop.

hemstock · #6 09-06-2005, 01:41 PM

Unfortunately no reads yet.
Who am I gonna check-raise on the flop?
And I don't feel comfortable raising KJs EP. Leak?

Bodhi · #7 09-06-2005, 01:50 PM

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Raise preflop. Seriously.

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hemstock · #8 09-06-2005, 01:51 PM

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Raise preflop. Seriously.

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I love 2 word quotes

Bodhi · #9 09-06-2005, 01:52 PM

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And I don't feel comfortable raising KJs EP. Leak?

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Yes. At party .5/1, absofuckinglutely, yes. Not raising KJs utg in these games is worse than limping utg w J4s.

hemstock · #10 09-06-2005, 01:54 PM

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And I don't feel comfortable raising KJs EP. Leak?

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Yes. At party .5/1, absofuckinglutely, yes. Not raising KJs utg in these games is worse than limping utg w J4s.

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Aren't you exaggerating juuuust a little bit?