Pocket 99s

waynethetrain · #1 10-10-2005, 01:42 PM

MP1 was loose and somewhat aggressive, but not overly aggressive.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP1 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, Button folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero calls.

River: (8.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP1 bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

milesdyson · #2 10-10-2005, 01:45 PM

if you bet the turn, you have to lay it down to the c/r. your other viable option is checking behind here and calling a river bet.

Fantam · #3 10-10-2005, 01:55 PM

I think the key to deciding whether to call down from MP1's turn raise is how agressive he was.

I would probably call down against a very agressive player, but fold against a passive player.

Your read that MP1 was loose but not overly agressive, suggests to me that he has a K.

You were getting effective odds somewhat better than 4:1 to call down. However, I doubt that you will have the best hand nearly 20% of the time, which you need to make calling profitable.

waynethetrain · #4 10-10-2005, 02:02 PM

I bet the turn because he checked the flop (that's why I bet the flop too) and I didn't see how the turn changed anything. Normally, I would lay this down to the CR, but the fact that there were 3 Qs on the board meant that any pocket pair gave you a full house. I guess I called down on the probability he a PP smaller than mine. Not that that was right, but that's what I was thinking at the time (while getting dizzy playing on 3 other tables) [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Fantam · #5 10-10-2005, 02:11 PM

Miles suggestion to check the turn was a good one, because that way you would have been able to see a showdown for the same cost as betting the turn and folding to a raise.

Also checking the turn would have the advantage of not scaring off a smaller pocket pair than your 99, so that you may be able to collect a bet from your opponent on the river.

waynethetrain · #6 10-10-2005, 02:16 PM

I understand the logic of his suggestion. Unfortunately, I actually thought I was ahead because of the flop check followed by the turn check (which turned into a CR). Given the way I played it, I think I should have folded as he suggested.

#7 10-10-2005, 02:47 PM

I bet fold this every time. checking is weak imo.

@bsolute_luck · #8 10-10-2005, 02:58 PM

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I bet fold this every time. checking is sometimes a good idea.

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amended.