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waynethetrain 10-10-2005 01:42 PM

Pocket 99s
 
MP1 was loose and somewhat aggressive, but not overly aggressive.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.75 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

milesdyson 10-10-2005 01:45 PM

Re: Pocket 99s
 
if you bet the turn, you have to lay it down to the c/r. your other viable option is checking behind here and calling a river bet.

Fantam 10-10-2005 01:55 PM

Re: Pocket 99s
 
I think the key to deciding whether to call down from MP1's turn raise is how agressive he was.

I would probably call down against a very agressive player, but fold against a passive player.

Your read that MP1 was loose but not overly agressive, suggests to me that he has a K.

You were getting effective odds somewhat better than 4:1 to call down. However, I doubt that you will have the best hand nearly 20% of the time, which you need to make calling profitable.

waynethetrain 10-10-2005 02:02 PM

Re: Pocket 99s
 
I bet the turn because he checked the flop (that's why I bet the flop too) and I didn't see how the turn changed anything. Normally, I would lay this down to the CR, but the fact that there were 3 Qs on the board meant that any pocket pair gave you a full house. I guess I called down on the probability he a PP smaller than mine. Not that that was right, but that's what I was thinking at the time (while getting dizzy playing on 3 other tables) [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Fantam 10-10-2005 02:11 PM

Re: Pocket 99s
 
Miles suggestion to check the turn was a good one, because that way you would have been able to see a showdown for the same cost as betting the turn and folding to a raise.

Also checking the turn would have the advantage of not scaring off a smaller pocket pair than your 99, so that you may be able to collect a bet from your opponent on the river.

waynethetrain 10-10-2005 02:16 PM

Re: Pocket 99s
 
I understand the logic of his suggestion. Unfortunately, I actually thought I was ahead because of the flop check followed by the turn check (which turned into a CR). Given the way I played it, I think I should have folded as he suggested.

10-10-2005 02:47 PM

Re: Pocket 99s
 
I bet fold this every time. checking is weak imo.

@bsolute_luck 10-10-2005 02:58 PM

Re: Pocket 99s
 
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I bet fold this every time. checking is sometimes a good idea.

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amended.


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