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03-03-2005, 03:48 PM
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Don\'t players make moves? Is bluffing non-existant?
So this forum has been a lot busier since the new party games were added, and I have been reading it more. Basically every thread features a hand where someone is put into a tough spot with a big hand. 90% of the responses tell the person to fold. Very, very few responses even acknowledge the idea that people bluff, semibluff, or just overplay their hands. I suppose playing scared nut-peddling poker like this can be profitable, but there is no way it is optimal. Folding KK preflop on Partypoker because somebody re-raised a short stack? You have to be kidding me.
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03-03-2005, 03:51 PM
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Re: Don\'t players make moves? Is bluffing non-existant?
Frequent bluffers you should have a read on. Infrequent bluffers, you lay down to, because it's a bigger mistake over all to call them.
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03-03-2005, 03:59 PM
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Re: Don\'t players make moves? Is bluffing non-existant?
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Frequent bluffers you should have a read on. Infrequent bluffers, you lay down to, because it's a bigger mistake over all to call them. [/ QUOTE ] I think this sums it up pretty well. I have lost a lot of money playing NL thinking that people were "making moves" on me.
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03-03-2005, 04:00 PM
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Re: Don\'t players make moves? Is bluffing non-existant?
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[ QUOTE ] Frequent bluffers you should have a read on. Infrequent bluffers, you lay down to, because it's a bigger mistake over all to call them. [/ QUOTE ] I think this sums it up pretty well. I have lost a lot of money playing NL thinking that people were "making moves" on me. [/ QUOTE ] me2
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#7
03-03-2005, 03:59 PM
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Re: Don\'t players make moves? Is bluffing non-existant?
it does seem like a lot of people want to fold every hand that is not the nuts. the general forum aversion to playing big pots with one pair are somewhat justified, but I think it is an easy thing to take too far.
post some hands where you caught some interesting bluffs. --turnipmonster
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#8
03-03-2005, 04:43 PM
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Re: Don\'t players make moves? Is bluffing non-existant?
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post some hands where you caught some interesting bluffs. [/ QUOTE ] i know you weren't talking to me, but . . . Prima 5-10 NL, five- or six-handed relevant stacks: Hero (~$1400) Villain (~$1800) Villain is very aggressive. He is a bit out of the SR mold, i.e. overbets w/ nada and overbets w/ the nuts. Is excellent at sensing weakness and applying pressure. Does not, however, seem to get too far out of line preflop, and probably thinks of me as aggro. but quite solid. Folded to hero on button w/ AKo, raise to $40. Villain, in SB, reraises $100 to $140. Hero calls. Flop comes KKx, rainbow. Check, check. Turn is an A. Villain pushes. After changing my boxer shorts, I . . . ? (sorry, didn't mean to hijack, but you asked, and this came to mind?) Anyway, given the context in which I'm posting this, it's pretty obv. villain was bluffing, but not-so-much at the time. I ran my time bank down and called, and he tabled 73o. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] The bluff is alive and well. -neon.
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#9
03-03-2005, 04:48 PM
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Re: Don\'t players make moves? Is bluffing non-existant?
That is not a good example of picking off a bluff. That is a good example of how a loose aggro gives away his stack to a nut peddler.
If you picked him off with QQ, that would be closer to an example of what he is talking about. But I don't think we are talking about fish who bluff their entire stack into a small pot when they could be facing the nuts anyway.
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#10
03-03-2005, 09:46 PM
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Re: Don\'t players make moves? Is bluffing non-existant?
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I ran my time bank down and called [/ QUOTE ] Wow you are a [censored] jackass!
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