Don\'t players make moves? Is bluffing non-existant?
 

So this forum has been a lot busier since the new party games were added, and I have been reading it more. Basically every thread features a hand where someone is put into a tough spot with a big hand. 90% of the responses tell the person to fold. Very, very few responses even acknowledge the idea that people bluff, semibluff, or just overplay their hands. I suppose playing scared nut-peddling poker like this can be profitable, but there is no way it is optimal. Folding KK preflop on Partypoker because somebody re-raised a short stack? You have to be kidding me.

Re: Don\'t players make moves? Is bluffing non-existant?
 

I find your post strange, because most calling stations are not results oriented.

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Frequent bluffers you should have a read on. Infrequent bluffers, you lay down to, because it's a bigger mistake over all to call them.

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I find your post strange, because most calling stations are not results oriented.

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I don't get this post.

Re: Don\'t players make moves? Is bluffing non-existant?
 

it does seem like a lot of people want to fold every hand that is not the nuts. the general forum aversion to playing big pots with one pair are somewhat justified, but I think it is an easy thing to take too far.

post some hands where you caught some interesting bluffs.

--turnipmonster

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Frequent bluffers you should have a read on. Infrequent bluffers, you lay down to, because it's a bigger mistake over all to call them.

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I think this sums it up pretty well.

I have lost a lot of money playing NL thinking that people were "making moves" on me.

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Frequent bluffers you should have a read on. Infrequent bluffers, you lay down to, because it's a bigger mistake over all to call them.

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I think this sums it up pretty well.

I have lost a lot of money playing NL thinking that people were "making moves" on me.

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me2

Re: Don\'t players make moves? Is bluffing non-existant?
 

I agree with your post. Not only are people looking to fold too much, it is clear they are not always getting full value from their hands. The key to fixing those problems is better hand reading.

Re: Don\'t players make moves? Is bluffing non-existant?
 

Diablo, are you trying out these 5/10 games on Party? I suck at NL but I seem to be beating them pretty easily. The "bad" players are payoff kings and the "good" players fold way too much. I think this thread pretty much directly points this out.
-James

Re: Don\'t players make moves? Is bluffing non-existant?
 

the most profitable adjustment I've made to my game is value betting the river a lot more.