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#11
12-30-2004, 05:17 PM
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Re: str8 flush draw flopped, min-raised back to you
Not much folding equity due to his stack size, or implied odds for that matter... 
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#12
12-30-2004, 05:20 PM
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Re: str8 flush draw flopped, min-raised back to you
Yes. But the his min-raise puzzles me if he held A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], wouldn't he just call or push all-in
here? Thanks, 4gaps
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#14
12-30-2004, 06:28 PM
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Re: str8 flush draw flopped, min-raised back to you
folding equity counts, but that is not why you push. you push in case you miss the turn. you do not want big money going in (on the turn) when you only have one card to come and are behind any pair.
matt
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#15
01-01-2005, 06:33 AM
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Re: str8 flush draw flopped, min-raised back to you
I don't really understand that. Because say he calls the $50, then he misses and his opponent goes all in on the turn, then he mathemetically is not getting odds to call so he folds. Doesn't he just save money this way, your reasoning to go all in on the flop just seems like an excuse to play the striaght draw too aggresive and see all the cards with it when maybe just paying $50 to see one card and then check/folding the turn is optimal. I am probably missing something here.
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#16
01-01-2005, 07:10 AM
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Re: str8 flush draw flopped, min-raised back to you
Hero has a straight-flush draw. He's ahead of anything but a set here. He WANTS the money to go in on the flop while he's the (slight) favorite.
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#17
01-01-2005, 11:30 AM
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Re: str8 flush draw flopped, min-raised back to you
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Hero has a straight-flush draw. He's ahead of anything but a set here. He WANTS the money to go in on the flop while he's the (slight) favorite. [/ QUOTE ] You sure? Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Ts 6d 5d cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV 7d 4d 468 47.27 522 52.73 0 0.00 0.473 6s Td 522 52.73 468 47.27 0 0.00 0.527
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#18
01-01-2005, 11:31 AM
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Re: str8 flush draw flopped, min-raised back to you
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Yes. But the his min-raise puzzles me if he held AT, wouldn't he just call or push all-in here? [/ QUOTE ] What the hell? Who brought up AT[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?? Whoever did should never leave their home again, for fear of an asteroid landing on their head. Good lord, push and hope he folds his AT or KT. Otherise, why the hell did you play the hand? If the boogeyman AT[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is there, just do three things: 1.) Start crying and asking God why He has forsaken you. 2.) Hope that you still hit one of your six outs. 3.) Reconsider playing these sorts of hands for limp if you're gonna fret so much when Ed McMahon comes knocking to see if you're home. I'm just kidding a little bit, but honestly, why even wonder if AT[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] is there? Are you going to look into his virtual soul and make a Big Laydown? If not, your options are raise or call. Duh. Do you think calling to see the turn here makes any sense? Are you going to muck to a blank and a bet? Push. Anyone who says there's no chance of him folding to an all-in bet on the flop is wrong. It happens all the damned time in spots like this.
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