River help. Thanks.

RockPile · #1 04-23-2005, 02:37 PM

Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP3 calls, Hero raises, 1 fold, SB calls, 1 fold, MP3 calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, MP3 calls, Hero raises, SB calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, MP3 folds.

River: (8.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero ????

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

xenthebrain · #2 04-23-2005, 02:38 PM

a crying call on the river

shadow29 · #3 04-23-2005, 02:40 PM

I would have checked the river.

johnnymac · #4 04-23-2005, 02:44 PM

Easy call. Whilst you're going to lose this often, the pot is big enough for it still to be profitable.

Joe

DavidC · #5 04-23-2005, 02:57 PM

Fold.

Pot's medium, not huge, flop is scary, and the river is scary.

Someone calling down with the ace of diamonds just hit it. This really looks like someone with the ace of diamonds.

DavidC · #6 04-23-2005, 03:01 PM

11.5:1 on the river (less rake, so 11:1?), he didn't bet the river, he checkraised it... I figure you're probably losing... probably in this case meaning more than 11/12 times.

I could be wrong, but for me this is a fold.

DavidC · #7 04-23-2005, 03:01 PM

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In RP's defense. He should have checked the river, but I would have bet it in the heat of the moment. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Edit: Reason to check the river: it's likely that the guy is on a four flush, which won't pay you off, but if he's got the ace he'll raise or call and win. There isn't positive expectation on this particular bet (though there was on the flop raise and turn bets).

shadow29 · #8 04-23-2005, 03:18 PM

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Edit: Reason to check the river: it's likely that the guy is on a four flush, which won't pay you off, but if he's got the ace he'll raise or call and win. There isn't positive expectation on this particular bet (though there was on the flop raise and turn bets).

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Yep. Inducing bluffs is the [censored].

johnnymac · #9 04-23-2005, 03:20 PM

Those odds are good enough for me personally, but then I always put someone on at least a 10% chance of bluffing. Specifically in this situation he could be playing a pocket pair lower than jacks with a diamond, and playing crazy to try and get the hero to fold.

I definately wouldn't raise though [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Joe

RockPile · #10 04-23-2005, 03:41 PM

I made the crying call.

Results in white below: 
SB has 8d Ah (one pair, aces).
Hero has Qs Js (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: SB wins 12.50 BB.