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RockPile 04-23-2005 02:37 PM

River help. Thanks.
 
Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, MP3 folds.

River: (8.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero ????

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

xenthebrain 04-23-2005 02:38 PM

Re: River help. Thanks.
 
a crying call on the river

shadow29 04-23-2005 02:40 PM

Re: River help. Thanks.
 
I would have checked the river.

johnnymac 04-23-2005 02:44 PM

Re: River help. Thanks.
 
Easy call. Whilst you're going to lose this often, the pot is big enough for it still to be profitable.

Joe

DavidC 04-23-2005 02:57 PM

Re: River help. Thanks.
 
Fold.

Pot's medium, not huge, flop is scary, and the river is scary.

Someone calling down with the ace of diamonds just hit it. This really looks like someone with the ace of diamonds.

DavidC 04-23-2005 03:01 PM

Re: River help. Thanks.
 
11.5:1 on the river (less rake, so 11:1?), he didn't bet the river, he checkraised it... I figure you're probably losing... probably in this case meaning more than 11/12 times.

I could be wrong, but for me this is a fold.

DavidC 04-23-2005 03:01 PM

Re: River help. Thanks.
 
[ QUOTE ]
I would have checked the river.

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In RP's defense. He should have checked the river, but I would have bet it in the heat of the moment. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Edit: Reason to check the river: it's likely that the guy is on a four flush, which won't pay you off, but if he's got the ace he'll raise or call and win. There isn't positive expectation on this particular bet (though there was on the flop raise and turn bets).

shadow29 04-23-2005 03:18 PM

Re: River help. Thanks.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Edit: Reason to check the river: it's likely that the guy is on a four flush, which won't pay you off, but if he's got the ace he'll raise or call and win. There isn't positive expectation on this particular bet (though there was on the flop raise and turn bets).

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Yep. Inducing bluffs is the [censored].

johnnymac 04-23-2005 03:20 PM

Re: River help. Thanks.
 
Those odds are good enough for me personally, but then I always put someone on at least a 10% chance of bluffing. Specifically in this situation he could be playing a pocket pair lower than jacks with a diamond, and playing crazy to try and get the hero to fold.

I definately wouldn't raise though [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

Joe

RockPile 04-23-2005 03:41 PM

Re: River help. Thanks. - RESULT
 
I made the crying call.

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has 8d Ah (one pair, aces).
Hero has Qs Js (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: SB wins 12.50 BB. </font>


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